Hey all, I just purchased a used Samsung H10, no service or sat currently, but I am trying to use it for the OTA ATSC tuner. It has an access card but basically I've gone through guided set-up and since no Sat it won't go past the gathering guide info. Also, if I skip the guided set-up w/menu + down on unit and try to manually go to "Antenna Setup" it is greyed out. I tried using a friends old Sat hook-up hoping if it downloaded the guide info the OTA would work, but it [Sat] was installed around 1999 so probably not angled correctly. I called D* and spoke with only one tech, she was under the impression that the tuner should work even w/out Sat, but misinformation seems to be their goal sometimes. Anyway, next plan is to try a Sat install I know is working, if no luck will probably eBay it. I guess it's possible the box may be defective, if not it's kind of annoying that a company purposely makes a device useless when someone actually paid for it...Any useful info or ideas would be appreciated.