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Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Earl Bonovich, Jul 17, 2007.
Discussion on the first look (and general) of the H21.
Is this essentailly an updated HR-20 without OTA support (ATSC tuner)?
No, it's basically an updated H20 without OTA as there is no recording capability.
Oops - my bad! I mis-read the model.
There is also an ethernet port, though it's currently unused.
Any idea when these might be available to the general public? And do you think they might have a trade out program that you could send them back a H20 for an H21, black would look better in our bedroom than the silver one, and I don't have a need for 5 HD boxes.
No definitive date on a release time frame.
As for a "trade in"... I doubt it, but you never know.
For someone used to recording, replay, stopping while you go to the lou, etc., this is not the one. Once the DVR genie is out of the bottle, it does not go back.
But for someone ordering a "2 Room Setup, I think that the H21 will be the basic receiver over time out-pacing and then replacing the D12.
The only real hardware addition in the H21 over the H20 is it's Ethernet port...
IIRC, the H20 didn't have a COAX-Digital Out
You do "RC".
The H21 seems much quicker responding to the remote than the HR-20, but as Craig noted, it's hard to change from using a DVR.
No front panel USB either, only the back has the USB port. Not sure if the H20 has a front panel USB port though.
This unit runs much cooler than the H20 as well.
Even still no DVR function and an ethernet port that is not turned on. Not enough for me to switch
Actually H21 runs so cool that I can't tell any difference in temperature when it's running or not running.
As far as the ethernet port, I'd be very surprised if it stayed turned off for long, the only question is what it will be used for.
It is by far the fastest guide I have seen on any DirecTV receiver.
As for not being a DVR...there are still many people that don't want a DVR or only want one DVR but don't want one on secondary TVs. Remember that the H21 will be the "HD entry level" receiver like the H20. The one you get for free. Many people sign up and get the free boxes and then get a DVR later if they want.
Me personally, I'll find good use for it during football season since I watch Sunday Ticket live and don't record anything. Being a non DVR it is faster with channel changes and I hope the Interactive stuff is faster as well. And will work great with PIP on my TV with the HR20 should I want to watch multiple games at once.
I don't like the missing ATSC tuner. DirecTV broadcasting locals in HD or no, the option to flip to OTA in the event of a rain storm, or other outtage by DirecTV is invaluable. I take my reflector down before a hurricane, OTA is a must for me, I'd rather not have to have two boxes.
New TVs have the tuner and there is still the H20 for those that need an ATSC tuner.
Not all new TV's do (I guess most now, though), but they are not all 5th generation tuners, which do wonders for multi-path situations. My H20-600 is one of the best ATSC tuners I have ever seen. I'm gonna hang onto that box until it dies of ripe old age.
Agree... [My TV has the same tuner] and "old age" may be heat.
To fuel the rumor mill...
What are the chances that the ethernet port on the H21 could be for streaming video from a networked HR21 (once that is eventually announced)?
This is of course only my own speculative (and hopeful) view that with MRV having been rumored about for awhile, the H21 would appear to be a good solid base platform to be an MRV "client" as well as the base HD receiver.