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Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by bill4d, Oct 27, 2011.
I tried 3 different Seagates in my HR24 and none worked internally or externally.
5900 or 5400?
Its a 2TB Barracuda 5900 rpm drive. Forget the exact model number. Only works in the -500 tho, it wont fit in the other ones I dont believe.
Naw, I just know the OP is a seagate lover. They are crap actually.
:nono: Nope. Not a Seagate lover. The original post is specifically about Western Digital models.
Interesting, I've never seen a 5900rpm drive. Most common are 7200 and 5400. I tried several Seagate 5400rpm drives, of varying sizes even, in my HR24-500 and none worked. The crazy thing is that the 500gb that came in my HR24 is a Seagate, not a Barracuda though.
You are correct. After checking again the site shows the WD20EARS, not the WD20EURS. My bad.
Seagate may not be affected as much because many of their drives are being made/assembled in China (probably why they've become crappy - I think this was Maxtor's factory). The rest come from Thailand.
Samsung may also not be affected as their drives are made/assembled in either (South) Korea or China.
Western Digital and Hitachi are probably both completely affected as it appears all their drives are coming from Thailand.
I've seen problems from almost all the manufacturers for over a year - enough that I'm pretty much weary of everyone. Someone needs to tell the manufacturers that in the case of data, people will pay more (most people anyway) if the drive will last three plus years. They have to remember that most people don't upgrade their drive all the time (gamers, etc.), they usually replace the whole machine, so having drives that last only a year or two (if that) will drive them away.
Another factor may be that Verizon's new FIOS DVR firmware that supports eSATA is making its way across the East Coast. I thought it odd that both Amazon and B&H were down to one unit in stock of the WD20EURS when I placed my order last week. Fortunately, I got in before price gouging set in.
It looks like stock on hand is evaporating and demand is only rising.
btw, I've used a standard 2TB WD Green Power drive with my DirecTv boxes. The AV-GP drives are preferable because they're optimized for DVR applications, but other drives will work too.
I bought two WD20EURS from B&H a couple of weeks ago... believe they were $95.
EDIT: Hmmm they seem to be sold out too... and price is now $139. Guess they've gotten popular! They DO work well.
I just noticed this thread, and do I ever have good timing. I was not aware of the issues but just yesterday I bought a WD20EURS at MicroCenter in Denver for $99.99, they had 6 in stock. I did notice that they were limiting purchases to 1 per person. Today it is $149.99!! They still have 3 left but it is in store pick up only, no shipping
Seagate, while not assembled much in Thailand, receives components in their drives that are made in....Thailand. It will affect all drive manufacturers in some way. Expect it to last until very early 2012 at this point.
Which is why I said "may not be" .
Maybe this will get drive manufacturers to spread their operations back out again (at least a little bit) - because consolidating like this has created a single point of failure.
I bought one of these drives with an eSATA enclosure.
Does the drive need to be jumpered in any particular way? I thought I just plugged the drive in "as-is" and connected through the esata port and it just did its thing.
The Antec MX-1 was OOS but a handful of the reviews for the Vantec enclosure I did purchase indicated they worked with DTV DVRs.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions on configuration. I've searched through lots of threads (particularly the esata FAQ and the recommended drives thread and still can't seem to locate my answer.)
No special configuration needed. I'm using the Vantec cases on 2 units and they work great.
So I suppose my next question is... why doesn't the DVR see the drive? I don't have any other eSATA devices to try, I guess I'll try to get a few eSATA cables from work to see if that's the culprit.
Thanks for the reply.
try to see it on your PC/Mac
That's kind of why I was wondering about configurations. To view it on a PC, you have to jumper the drive and I have to use the USB cable (I have no other devices that can attach to it via eSATA.)
I thought to use it in the DVR, it could be jumperless. I don't think you can view it on the PC without jumpers.
If you got the same Vantec case I did, there isn't anything you need to do other than to plug it in via the USB port to your PC.
You will need to initialize the disk before creating a partition. Under XP they made init'ing the disk kind of hard to find because you need to get in to the disk manager and right click the drive icon itself. The option isn't in the menu.
it's simple test - if your drive(s) inside the box are OK; use USB, try to get properties of raw drive(s) ...
10-4. Thanks. I'll give it a shot again.
Btw, here's the case I'm using:
Item # N82E16817392002 on Newegg.
(Can't link the URL directly, I'm too n00b.)
Hmm. Plugged in the USB cable, it recognizes the USB to SATA bridge, but I don't see any way to access the drive to format, etc.
If I choose to "Display device components" I see the drive. Properties of the drive look fine. "Device is working properly" , under the Volumes tab, when I 'populate' the volume info I see 3 unnamed partitions. 518MB, 15367 MB, and 1891842MB.
I see no way to format, name the partitions, etc. No drive letter shows up in My Computer either.