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Hardware question about Genie upgrade

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Gordon Shumway, Sep 30, 2013.

  1. Gordon Shumway

    Gordon Shumway Member

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    I am considering using the PP free upgrade on a Genie due to the age and slowness of my current system. I have a single SWIM LNB going to a 4-way splitter outside the house. Two of those lines go to my primary viewing area. One of the lines goes to my original HDTV receiver (HR20) from 2007, which is still my fastest receiver [​IMG]. The second line goes to a broadband DECA, which is hooked to my Linksys wireless adapter. The other two lines go to the master bedroom. One is hooked to a power inserter, which then goes to an HR22. The other line is unused.

    With the 5 tuners on a Genie, will the upgrade require something different in place of the 4-way splitter? Also can it be done outside under the eaves in place of the 4-way splitter? The 4 cables are straight runs to two different rooms, so there is no logical place to add hardware inside easily.

    I also might consider one of the mini-clients in the bedroom, if it is definitely faster than the HR22. I don't record tons of programming so I kind of like recording the same programs on both receivers for backup purposes. Any movies only go on the HR22 to save space on the HR20. I've never actually needed the backup feature, so if the client is a lot faster I may just not worry about backup.
     
  2. trh

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    If the Genue is a replacement for one of your DVRs, then nothing needs to change. The empty line should be capper/terminated.

    One possible issue with a genie and client. If the genie dies, there is nothing to feed the client. So no tv at your house. Not that I've heard that this is an issue now, but it could be in the future.

    If you're keeping both DVRs and adding a genie, then they need to replace your LNB and add a SWM16 because you've exceeded the 8 tuner limit in your current configuration.
     
  3. Gordon Shumway

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    Thanks, it sounds like you are saying the SWM LNB is good for 8 tuners. That would be good for my worst case of 7 tuners (Genie + 1 DVR).

    Any comments on the speed of the mini-client. Is it fast enough to consider foregoing the safety of a 2nd receiver?
     
  4. PK6301

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    Just had my Genie installed this morning.. I will say one thing..

    Do not wait another minute to upgrade..Get on the phone right now and get the ball rolling to get the upgrade started.. You will not regret your decision..

    I replaced a HR23 with a HR44, it is twice as fast in every aspect of performance. :rolleyes:

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  5. trh

    trh This Space for Sale

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    Yes, LNB good for 8 tuners.

    I got a 44 and C41 installed in late-July. Haven't used the client much. It is in the guest room. But programming it and surfing with it a bit, it is very fast. But I've been burned to many times not to have a back up.
     
  6. Gordon Shumway

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    I have the exact same situation. I won't use the client as much for sure, but Lord it would be nice to not fall asleep between channel changes. However, I have to decide whether the backup capability is more important. On the surface I'd say yes, but more and more missed episodes can be picked up on the computer pretty easily. I'm more of a reader than a watcher so I'll likely take the chance on the full upgrade. Not having that hard drive whirring in the background in the bedroom is another solid reason for the mini-client. [​IMG]
     
  7. NR4P

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    When you upgrade to a Genie, there is no guarantee that it will be an HR44, could be an HR34. No matter they tell you on the phone, they cannot guarantee anything other than a Genie. The 34 is a fine box, just not quite as fast as the 44. So if you want a HR44, you need to either buy it from Solid Signal or another place and get Directv to cover your cost or, when the installer calls as he/she is on the way, ask what they have for you. If its a 34, you can politely request they come with a 44.

    I repeat, no matter what the CSR on the phone says, they cannot guarantee a HR44 will arrive.
     
  8. DB Stalker

    DB Stalker New Member

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    I'd say set up the install for just the genie and tell the installer that you've been having issues with the remaining DVR and see if he'll replace it with an hr24. If he doesn't have one, or if he's being stubborn, then have him add the client.
    MAKE SURE you have all of this resolved before he gets started so that if he's being obtuse and doesn't want to work with you at all it'll be that much easier for you to kick him out and reschedule with someone who'll take care of you.

    #)
     
  9. Gordon Shumway

    Gordon Shumway Member

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    And the problem with that is what? Is the HR34 some how a far inferior machine to the HR44. Just curious as I never mentioned one or the other in my question about a Genie.
     
  10. bpratt

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    It is possible to get a Genie and keep both of your current DVRs without going to SWM16. I currently have SWM8 with an HR44-500 and two HR21-700s connected to it. I ran satellite setup on the second HR21-700 and told it to only use a single tuner. The second HR21-700 has an AM21 for recording off air and it will still record 2 things at once if at least one of them is OTA. I am mainly using the two HR21-700s for backup and spending most of my time watching recordings on the very very fast HR44-500.
     
  11. dpeters11

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    I have a 34 and don't regret it. Was still an upgrade in speed. The HR44 is much smaller physically.
     
  12. peds48

    peds48 DIRECTV A-Team DBSTalk Club

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    Taking care of the installer goes along way......
     
  13. Bill Broderick

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    ^ It did for me.
     
  14. JasTay4224

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    Are you advocating bribery... :)
     
  15. Bill Broderick

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    Gratuity, bribery. To-may-to, to-mah-to. Unofficial upgrade to HR24, picture of Andrew Jackson.
     
  16. peds48

    peds48 DIRECTV A-Team DBSTalk Club

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    Are you advocating bribery... :)
    nope, more like a compensation for a job well done!


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