Amazon: $155 +free shipping. Edit: oops, thats for the 880. $180 is probably good for the 885, as it is typically hard to find. I think the colored buttons are cool on the 885, but I don't think I would like losing the extra up and down arrows that are where the 885's color buttons are on the 880. I use the extra up and down for an extra volume control. (One for the TV volume, and one for the receiver volume.) FWIW.