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Has the Hopper cured the 722's many bad faults?

Discussion in 'Hopper System Support Forum' started by Wisguy, Aug 20, 2012.

  1. Stewart Vernon

    Stewart Vernon Roving Reporter Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    Second moderator friendly intervention... please stop attacking the posters, attack the topic. If you disagree with the poster, state so in a reasonable manner without insults. Further transgressions will meet with additional action.
     
  2. speedy4022

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    I don't think it has been mentioned but as to number 6 the dtv dvr does this as well. The difference between it and dish is you can shut it off on the dtv dvr but the default is turned on.
     
  3. PghGuy

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    Your dodge neon quote is a perfect analogy. A dodge neon owner who complains about the lack of power, handling, comfort or style is clearly an owner who did not put the time in to research these items before they purchased the car in the first place. This type of owner might not be too lazy to adapt but they are clearly too lazy to do their own research before purchasing. For whatever reason you did not research these items (and the “at least half dozen more” you say you did not include) before going with Dish and the 722. For that you have nobody else to blame, but instead of learning from your mistake, you come in here posting a very negative first paragraph to people who probably do not have the same opinion of the 722 as you do and then you expect them to jump out of their seat to give you the answers that you do not want to get on your own. You tell PatMurphey that you genuinely want to research the hopper so why not read the manual online, why not go to a physical store that sells dish and try it out first hand or read the many reviews already done on it. If you would spend just half the time you spent replying to others in here I bet you would have your answers by now.

    Again your neon example is perfect. This is like a neon owner who thinks his car is poorly engineered, an outright POS of a car and probably the worst designed car he ever owned but instead of him going out and “genuinely researching” those features on his next car, all he wants to do is complain and have other people get this information for him.
     
  4. mdavej

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    There are a lot of DirecTV features I wish Dish had, including many Wiseguy posted plus several others like bookmarks, more cast/crew info, quicktune, sticky fav lists, etc. I knew all of this before hand, but frankly didn't care very much. My ideal DVR would combine features of both Dish and DirecTV. To answer your original question, most of those shortcomings you mentioned still exist in the Hopper. In spite of that, I liked my Hopper far more than my 722 and consider it the best DVR overall I've ever had from any provider.

    Also consider that your DirecTV DVR of old no longer exists. Current ones on the current software are very sluggish. So pressing play to interrupt skip would only kick in 5-10 seconds after you pressed it, rendering that functionality useless.

    For me, however, content trumps equipment. So I can live with a few annoyances as long as I get the content I want.

    (I've had both Dish and DirecTV in the recent past, but I currently subscribe to neither service nor do I intend to in the near future).
     
  5. bgottschalk

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    I've been hearing all the "Hopper" commercials on lately and was kind of interested. As a current DTV customer, I do think the prime time recording, commercial skip (lawsuits coming :) ) and controlling recording from all receivers features are cool. However, after some research I found the 3 tuners just wouldn't cut it for me coming from 3 DVR's with 6 tuners. That was my deal-breaker.

    I have to say after reading the complaints, I am even more happy with my decision. I would be very disappointed with the items listed by the OP. Just my 2 cents.

    Oh - and my HR24's and HR20 are not sluggish in the least. 5 to 10 seconds to respond to a keypress - if that is not an extreme exageration, then you had something seriously wrong with your DVR. While I find that the skip back is almost perfect to the point where I want, I have to admit I only use fast forward while zooming through a large timeframe. For commercials, I just use the 30 second skip.
     
  6. strikes2k

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    If you get two hoppers you have 6 tuners. With PTAT that could be significantly more if you watch a decent amount of network TV.
     
  7. bgottschalk

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    But they aren't linked together yet are they?

    Once they are linked, I think that will be a very cool option. I assume you could turn PTAT off on one of them so you didn't double up on prime time?

    Once they start offering a two hopper system for free to new subs that will be even cooler :D. I have a lot of money sunk into my 3 DTV DVR's to just send them back and buy more equipment. Not implying that having to pay for one hopper isn't a good deal - still cheaper than the 3 I bought - but it does make switching back and forth expensive if you aren't a basic sub.
     
  8. puckwithahalo

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    They are linked together in that you can see the recordings from both Hoppers from any room with a Hopper or Joey. They do not share tuners though.
     
  9. RasputinAXP

    RasputinAXP Kwisatz Haderach of Cordcuttery

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    They talk to each other already, you turn off PTAT on one and you're golden. Seriously, I don't even know what I'm going to do with those other 3 tuners right now.
     
  10. puckwithahalo

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    We just set all of our recordings on the hopper with the least used Joeys connected to it. Then we never have to worry about whether or not something is recording on the Hopper our "high traffic" tv's are connected to :D
     
  11. gschield

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    I am am just about ready to dump my 722, freezes when I rewind and then jumps to live TV.
     
  12. gschield

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    So are you saying that you can watch any show recorded on either hopper on the Joey or the other hopper?
     
  13. jestwaitn

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    i started out with the old echostar receiver that would control a vcr (sometimes). got it for shipping cost of $30 + dish alignment & it included free programming for 90 days! used this system for over 3 years, so upgrading to the 502 was a huge leap in technology for me!

    i have used the 722 for over a year now and find that it is anything but a POS. it is far better than the 502 i used for nearly 9 years. the sound is far superior. it records 2 programs and i can watch a recorded program while it does this.

    i'm smart enough to skip beyond a commercial into the program itself and back it up. so i don't find this demeaning at all.

    i didn't go with directv due to the high cost of their programming. i'm smart enough to determine this without making the mistake.

    the 722 has been very reliable for me, so i don't find that it has any discernable problems. i don't plan to go hopper.

    this is my input. have a good day.
     
  14. RasputinAXP

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    Yup.
     
  15. Arya Stark

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    Wisguy,

    I can confirm that DTV DVR's don't let you FF, REW, Pause, anymore when the picture is on the guide/list.

    I don't know when they took that feature out, but I think it was when they updated the GUI.

    I just switched to the Hopper from DTV, so this is current information!


    There are several MAJOR things I prefer about DTV...the bookmarks, skip forward to the marks, the recording issue you talked about, the small screen control issue (but now DTV doesn't have that either) and other little things, but overall I am very happy with the Hopper. AND, I feel like Dish could potentially fix the things that annoy me. I don't get the feeling that DTV will ever fix their sluggish DVRs.

    That was pretty unbiased, non-fanboy (for either side) info, in my opinion.
     

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