Inspired by some of the previous posts, but not wanting to tread on their toes I also have a question about how the trees effect the HD Signal. My Father, who currently has both a 1 LNB dish and Directway contacted D* trying to upgrade to the HD service. An installer came out to the house and said that it couldn't be done. That the trees in the forest off the backyard would interfere with the signal. Now it is true that there is substantial tree cover sorunding the property, but it is not what I would call insurmountable. As well as the fact that he currently runs two other satellite systems, seems to say that something else is going on (lazy installer?). I admit to complete ignorance to the working of the satellite systems, the talk about angle of degrees left me in the dark. But the systems have always been very rugged in my experience, I once had a house where my dish was pointed at a tree covered hillside and I still got a 90% signal. So is the HD service that sensitive? And if so is there anything that can be done to overcome the problem besides complete deforestation? Is Dish Network any better or different? It is really his only option because he lives in a rural area with no cable service, and his 50" HDTV looks soooo sad with all that Standard Def content on it.