1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.
  2. Welcome to the new DBSTalk community platform. We have recently migrated to a community platform called Xenfono and hope you will find this change to your liking. There are some differences, but for the most part, if you just post and read, that will all be the same. If you have questions, please post them in the Forum Support area. Thanks!

HD carriage dispute w/ ABC/ESPN/Disney

Discussion in 'DISH™ High Definition Discussion' started by tsmacro, Jun 22, 2010.

  1. Jun 22, 2010 #1 of 418
    tsmacro

    tsmacro Hall Of Fame

    2,364
    54
    Apr 28, 2005
    East...
    Effective June 22, 2010 the standard-definition feeds of Disney Channel, Disney XD, ABC Family and ESPNews are still available, and you may continue to watch your favorite programs on their regular channel numbers.



    DISH Network now offers all customers HD Free for Life, which is possible because we are committed to negotiating fair contracts that allow us to keep our prices low. Disney and ESPN Networks demanded an exorbitant fee for the HD feeds of Disney East, Disney XD, ESPNews and ABC Family – a fee that would be a tax on our customers. After we refused to pay, Disney and ESPN Networks pulled the HD feeds of these four channels only.
     
  2. Jun 22, 2010 #2 of 418
    tsmacro

    tsmacro Hall Of Fame

    2,364
    54
    Apr 28, 2005
    East...
    I thought I read on here somewhere someone saying Dish had a good relationship with ABC/Disney/ESPN. Hmmmm, maybe not so much at the moment it seems. :(
     
  3. Jun 22, 2010 #3 of 418
    BillJ

    BillJ Icon

    858
    6
    May 5, 2005
    I just discovered the missing channels and called DISH. This is absolutely ridiculous. I'm paying the same as I was paying last month for DISH but suddenly they can't afford to offer these channels in HD. Come on, Charlie.
     
  4. Jun 22, 2010 #4 of 418
    Dave

    Dave Icon

    864
    0
    Jan 28, 2003
    Lets not blame Charlie for ABC's greed and high cost for carriage. I can watch them in SD as easy as HD. Tell the CEO of Disney, ABC to get off there high money horse.
     
  5. Jun 22, 2010 #5 of 418
    sigma1914

    sigma1914 DIRECTV A-Team DBSTalk Club

    14,573
    369
    Sep 5, 2006
    Allen, TX
    If they pulled ESPNHD & ESPN2HD, then there would be a HUUUUUGE backlash.
     
  6. Jun 22, 2010 #6 of 418
    Jables

    Jables AllStar

    89
    0
    Apr 24, 2008
    As a D* customer who suffered through the VS dispute, I sure hope it takes E* less time to sort things out. Sucks for you guys.

    And I'll echo BillJ - I thought the same thing when D* lost VS:

    Sat Co: We refuse to pass on these egregious charges to you, our valued customer!
    Customer: OK. So we don't get that channel now while you work things out? Do we get to pay less while we're down a channel?
    Sat Co: No.
     
  7. Jun 22, 2010 #7 of 418
    domingos35

    domingos35 Icon

    537
    0
    Jan 11, 2006
    u damn right about that
     
  8. Jun 22, 2010 #8 of 418
    James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    44,930
    868
    Apr 17, 2003
    Michiana
    No Longer Available
    9433 DISE (172 HD) Disney (East) 129° TP 18 / 61.5° TP 25 HD *TEST* Hidden
    9434 ABCFM (180 HD) ABC Family 129° TP 28 / 61.5° TP 25 HD *TEST* Hidden
    9449 DISXD (174 HD) Disney XD 129° TP 27 / 61.5° TP 25 HD *TEST* Hidden
    9494 ESNWS (142 HD) ESPNews 129° TP 28 / 61.5° TP 25 HD *TEST* Hidden

    The ESPN lawsuit is still pending ... the relationship seemed good as despite the court case DISH added channels. Apparently not as good as it seemed.

    I guess this gives people the answer as to if ESPNU HD will be added any time soon (although sometimes disputes end with new channels).

    (According to the court filing, DISH believed their contract with ESPN that included all feeds of ESPN and ESPN2 also included ESPN HD and ESPN2 HD and didn't want to pay extra. ESPN treated their HD feeds as separate channels - and the legal dispute began.)
     
  9. Jun 22, 2010 #9 of 418
    n0qcu

    n0qcu Legend/Supporter DBSTalk Gold Club

    1,256
    12
    Mar 23, 2002
    If they would pull these that would be absolutely the very best thing that could ever happen.
     
  10. Jun 22, 2010 #10 of 418
    0pusX

    0pusX Legend

    116
    0
    Jan 10, 2008
    this is already is huge issue for me. 3 of those channels are on almost constantly at my house.
     
  11. Jun 22, 2010 #11 of 418
    ENDContra

    ENDContra Cool Member

    31
    0
    Dec 8, 2006
    Hmmm....I can deal with these being gone for a bit, if the end result also gets us ESPNUHD. Any chance of that?
     
  12. Jun 22, 2010 #12 of 418
    phrelin

    phrelin Hall Of Fame DBSTalk Club

    14,891
    283
    Jan 18, 2007
    Northern...
    Well, this may be the dispute to watch to find out just how expensive your TV package will be in the future. I already grumble about how much ESPN is costing me - I could care less if I get it but for anyone to get it we have to pay something like $5-$7 a month extra in the various packages.

    I also don't need the Disney Channels but I'm sure it's a significant number in the package cost already.

    Whatever Dish agrees to in this dispute will set the tone for future negotiations with NBCU, Time Warner, etc. for the other groups of cable channels. Then will come the local/network negotiations where we know the networks are asking for an extra buck or two along with whatever their affiliates want.

    I predict that packages will go up $10-$15 a month or an average of 30% over a very few years. Some will, of course, bitch about Dish or DirecTV or Cox Cable or FIOS. The rest of us will know where to place the blame - at Congress for not reigning in the media conglomerate greed and ourselves for not voting our personal interests.

    Leave them off, Charlie, unless you can get an agreement for 10¢ a channel which you should list in detail on the bill along with an email address for Disney Inc.
     
  13. Jun 22, 2010 #13 of 418
    0pusX

    0pusX Legend

    116
    0
    Jan 10, 2008
    Its funny how people say "Good for DISH, take a stand, I dont care about those channels anyways" well what if they channels you and your family watched were taken off, would you be singing the same tune then?
     
  14. Jun 22, 2010 #14 of 418
    erosroadie

    erosroadie Godfather

    389
    0
    Jan 9, 2007
    Been there, done that with Versus and D*. Not the same impact obviously as ESPN HD feeds being dropped. Feel sorry for the World Cup fans now watching games in SD...:eek2:
     
  15. Jun 22, 2010 #15 of 418
    Conway

    Conway Legend

    227
    1
    Oct 29, 2002
    we still have the SD channels of them.. The HD channels will be back soon im sure. I'v seen disputes with dish come to a close rather quickly.
     
  16. Jun 22, 2010 #16 of 418
    sigma1914

    sigma1914 DIRECTV A-Team DBSTalk Club

    14,573
    369
    Sep 5, 2006
    Allen, TX
    It's not ESPN HD or ESPN2 HD....yet. Only Disney Channel, Disney XD, ABC Family, and ESPNews are affected.
     
  17. Jun 22, 2010 #17 of 418
    PRIME1

    PRIME1 AllStar

    59
    0
    Nov 29, 2007
    If you have the HD Absolute package, you don't have them at all right now. What's worse is I just called tech support and they were not even aware of the problem. They had me reset my receiver to try to fix the issue. While that was coming back up I decided to check here, and then I informed her of the problem!
     
  18. Jun 22, 2010 #18 of 418
    tsmacro

    tsmacro Hall Of Fame

    2,364
    54
    Apr 28, 2005
    East...
    Did I miss your post singing Dish's praises all the times they've added HD channels and not raised your bill? After all fair's fair here. Now really being fair this is a carriage dispute, happens regularly, company that owns the channels wants more $$$, Dish understandably doesn't want to pay more. As always they'll hash something out sooner or later.
     
  19. Jun 22, 2010 #19 of 418
    JWKessler

    JWKessler Legend

    176
    2
    Jun 2, 2004
    I realize that ESPN - and Disney - are important channels for many Dish customers. However, not everyone is a sports fan or has kids. So why should we be forced to pay higher monthly fees to ESPN or Disney for expensive channels we will NEVER watch?

    Perhaps a separate package containing these "semi-premium" channels could be created. People who really wanted ESPN or Disney could pay for the privilege, giving the rest of us a break. I see it a bit like the Platinum package. You have the option to pay a bit more for these channels if you want them, or if you don't care about them you can chose not to subscribe.

    I remember when I subscribed to Bell ExpressVU they had named packages like Basics, News, Sports, Kids, Music, Entertainment, Learning etc and grouped several related channels into each package. When you subscribed you could pick the number of packages you wanted, then chose packages until you hit your limit. It seemed like a smart way to handle the situation that was much more fair than what we have.
     
  20. Jun 22, 2010 #20 of 418
    phrelin

    phrelin Hall Of Fame DBSTalk Club

    14,891
    283
    Jan 18, 2007
    Northern...
    First of all, ESPHD seems to be on right now, though DisneyHD and ABCFamilyHD aren't.

    Absolutely! We watch a lot on NBCU and TimeWarner cable channels and I'd be right there glaring at them with Dish if I could be at the table.

    And I would be particularly mad at Disney because I have been watching the World Cup on ESPN. Talk about blackmail. Viva Univision HD!

    Oh, and I'm waiting for the day when the various media giant groups can be purchased in separate packages so we can begin to see what we're paying these companies.
     

Share This Page