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HD carriage dispute w/ ABC/ESPN/Disney

Discussion in 'DISH™ High Definition Discussion' started by tsmacro, Jun 22, 2010.

  1. dennispap

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    Ruling came out today. Dish lost:
    However, from the wording of the ruling, and the fact that it was made by the Manhattan Supreme Court, it looks like it will be a long ride while Dish takes this through the rest of the process in the Courts.

    http://www.law.com/jsp/cc/PubArticl...tled_to__Million_From_Dish_Network_Jury_Finds
     
  2. phrelin

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    Heck, this is just the jury decision in a trial. We could be discussing this years from now if it weren't for the fact that at some point that some contracts will soon expire.
     
  3. sheltrk

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    The way I'm reading this: The Manhattan Supreme Court jury basically is saying that yes, Disney was correct in collecting the additional fees for the HD versions of various Disney-owned channels. Dish already paid those fees (under protest), and was disputing the contractual requirement to pay them.

    This verdict would seem to make it extremely unlikely for Dish to change their current policy (as of June 2010) of *not* carrying those same channels in HD. Interestingly, the 2005 Disney carriage contracts are also being litigated in federal court.

    What a mess...
     
  4. bnewt

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    yes, it is a mess & the customer suffers
     
  5. Paul Secic

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    This could go on for years. That CSR is wrong.
     
  6. ehren

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    CSR's have credible evidence now?

    aaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
     
  7. sheltrk

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    I watched the OSU - ISU game on ESPNU last night. Great game (except for the ending). Picture quality, however, was absolutely terrible. It's a shame.

    It's been several months... Any updates on when we might possibly see all the Disney/ESPN/ABC channels in HD?
     
  8. tampa8

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    You can bet if there was news it would not be hidden, it's not like people have forgot about it! ..... :)
     
  9. MCHuf

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    Dish is holding the line on package pricing until 2013. Just watch; when they raise prices, that's when the dispute with Disney will be resolved.
     
  10. phrelin

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    It has gotten infinitely more complicated, or perhaps completely uncomplicated, with the Comcast - Disney deal. You can read a summary here and even click the "show press release" button. Comcast not only agreed to pay more for ESPN, it also agreed to pay for Disney O&O local ABC broadcast stations. In my crystal ball I see $$$ disappearing from my wallet or everything owned by Disney disappearing from Dish including my local ABC affiliate.
     
  11. Jhon69

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    Well this is a croc of crap!.DISH does not want to pay Disney extra for the HD channels? then why does DISH's customers have to pay extra for the HD channels from DISH?.Must be some more of DISH's"Don't do as I do,do as I say"?.:nono2:
     
  12. James Long

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    DISH offers free HD. Considering the additional satellite space needed to carry HD it is an expensive offering that is not covered by the "token" payment some make for the HD versions of the channels.

    DISH's issue with ABC is they feel that DISH should get the best deal of any provider. Another (unnamed) provider got the HD versions at no extra charge, DISH assumed the same deal should apply to them. Why should ABC give some providers free channels and not DISH?
     
  13. Jhon69

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    This is all I know,I got HD Free For Life for a 24 month commitment with autopay and auto billing.

    It also possible to get HD For Life for $99.(no commitment)

    It's also possible to get the HD channels for $10. a month.

    So anyway I see it DISH is charging extra for the HD channels.

    DirecTV charges $10. a month for the HD channels.

    That's all I know.

    I do appreciate the information Thanks James,guess it really doesn't matter.DISH is going to do,what DISH is going to do and if subscribers don't like it,they go elsewhere,right?
     
  14. Stewart Vernon

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    As James notes... Part of the problem is some channels negotiating lower prices with one company then wanting higher prices with another. Dish doesn't pass all the savings to us, but if they just accepted and passed on all the increases, none of us would be able to afford TV for long.
     
  15. James Long

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    New subscribers between August 2009 and June 2010, and existing HD subscribers who dropped their pre-August 2009 HD package (Bronze/Silver/Gold and Platinum) and then added the August 2009 HD+Platinum HD ended up with free HD with no strings attached - no autopay/paperless/$99 fee/extra commitment. I am one of those people (I dropped my old HD plan and added HD+Platinum HD, which became Free HD plus what is now the Blockbuster package).

    For those who still find a way to pay for HD (the least they could do is pay the $99 fee and not make a commitment to get away from the $10 fee) it seems they have chosen to pay more than they need to. It is probably easier to pay $10 per month and complain about it than to take a step that leads to free HD. :)
     
  16. HDlover

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    Hope dish refuses to pay more for ESPN and will only carry it as a premium channel. ABC is screwing the consumer who has no say. Looks like an opportunity for a new carrier who'd do a la carte.
     
  17. James Long

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    The first step is to find channels that will sell their content a la carte. The ABC/ESPNs in this world negotiate for inclusion by the package level. If the carrier doesn't include their channel at the package level the channel desires then nobody gets the channel via that carrier.

    So when you find this theoretical new carrier who will do a la carte you'll find a lot of missing channels because they won't be able to get the carriage deals.
     
  18. John79605

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    When the dispute is resolved will there be bandwidth for the HD channels?
     
  19. Jhon69

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    That part I can agree with you and James,I appreciate that about DISH,that's another reason I came back from DirecTV.But I'm sure you can also see why there are those who think just the opposite.Hopefully this will enlighten those who are on both sides of this issue,Thanks again.:)
     
  20. SayWhat?

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    Here's just one reason why I'll never support a fee increase to Disney:

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012...Type=RSS&feedName=businessNews&rpc=23&sp=true

    That's more than the annual budget of some medium sized counties.
     

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