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HD Discusson: Cartoon Network (Channel 296)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Doug Brott, Sep 18, 2007.

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  1. Spike

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    I am disappointed in this channel because of the stretched picture too. I really do want my children to be able to enjoy their shows in a 16x9 HD format. Now, I'm hoping that the Disney channels will at least provide the 16x9 the venue that I was hoping for with this channel.
     
  2. Jeremy W

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    I expect Disney will not only use pillar bars for SD, but they should also have more HD initially. Hopefully they follow ESPN's lead, and use stylized pillars. I don't know why more channels don't do this. ESPN and CNN are the only ones I can think of.
     
  3. DarkAudit

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    Then at some point, someone's going to get the idea to move the picture over and sell ad space in what's left. :nono:
     
  4. Jeremy W

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    I really can't see that happening, because eventually the majority of the programming will be HD. Besides, the most valuable programming will be HD either at or very near the beginning, so there would be no point in selling ads for the less popular SD shows.
     
  5. Raiderguy8

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    Metalocalypse has always been in widescreen but I doubt it was in HD. I am looking forward to seeing how it looks tonight on the HD channel. DETHKLOK RULES!!!!
     
  6. generalpatton78

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    Well I'm very upset Death Note and Ghost was stretched when it was already a 16x9 program. I guess I'll go back to bittorent for death note.:mad:
     
  7. Tom Servo

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    It seems like if the Turner networks have the ability to strrrretch 4:3 programs to 16:9, they could also simply zoom and fill the screen properly on an "SD widescreen" presentation like Metalocalypse. :eek:
     
  8. Marvin

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    I know that a few of the Tom and Jerry cartoons were done in Cinemascope (2.66:1) between 54-58 but when they're aired on TV they're cropped. It is pretty crazy though to think that the cropping results in a loss of half of the total image. Some people get all uppity over losing a small amount of the picture when a 16:9 movie is turned into 4:3..
     
  9. PRMan

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    Discovery zooms all their content, but it's not too horrible on most shows. I don't feel like I'm losing much on Cash Cab or Mythbusters and the increased resolution isn't ruined by stretching.

    It's a good thing that I don't watch any shows on Cartoon Network now that Justice League, Dexter and Powerpuff Girls have ended.

    And it sounds like even if they showed Justice League (which is filmed Widescreen ready for HD), they would do it wrong anyway.

    What a total waste.
     
  10. dtv757

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    any one notice any audio issues with this channel??

    i had a few audio skips recording the boondocks on Monday night.

    it was just a slight skip and not a complete audio drop out.
    video and caption was fine but in the middle of a sentence the audio would skip for a second. and no I'm not confusing this audio issue for a curse word edit, this occurred during sentences with out curse words.
     
  11. generalpatton78

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    Ya I had some issues the other day to.
     
  12. Nov 1, 2007 #112 of 135
    DarkAudit

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    Who is running the clock on the Adult Swim shift? The first Futurama of the night generally starts on time, but as the night wears on, they get further and further out of sync. I've seen shows start as much as five minutes early. This is at it's worst by the time Metalocalypse starts.

    My HR20 and TiVo both start on time. It's Cartoon Network that's having issues.
     
  13. Nov 1, 2007 #113 of 135
    djzack67

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    Triying to DVR anything on Cartoon Network or Adult Swin is a joke, They have been off timing wise for almost a year now.
     
  14. Nov 1, 2007 #114 of 135
    sheltrk

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    Yes! I get sub-second audio drop-outs on this channel with extreme regularity. Once every ~48 seconds, as a matter of fact. :confused:

    For the record, I recently upgraded to the HR20-100. (I didn't have any HD receivers before.) I have the optical audio signal from the HR20 going to an older Aiwa AV receiver. I get the regular audio drops on this channel regardless of whether I have the HR-20 in DD or PCM mode. I haven't tried analog audio.

    I get very occasional ~1 second audio drops on other channels, but if I rewind or replay, the sound reappears. However, on Cartoon Network HD, I get a sub-second audio drop every ~48 seconds, and if I rewind or replay, the blip of sound is still missing. :(

    It's moderately annoying, but so far my wife and I have been tolerating it thanks to the amazing picture quality, even if it is "stretch-o-vision". I guess since we're mostly watching anime, the distorted aspect ratio doesn't bother us...

    Any thoughts on what could be causing the regular audio drop-outs? Anyone else experiencing this?
     
  15. Nov 1, 2007 #115 of 135
    JerryElbow

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    As many people have pointed out here (enough to violently agree with each other), the problem if stretchovision cames from the provider (Cartoon Network in this case) and not with the carrier (DirecTV in this case). As such, rather than complaining about the carrier or even trying to argue with each other, why aren't we all just bombarding the provider with emails about how thrilled we are with the fact that they've joined the 21st century by goind HD but how we are NOT going to watch them until they abolish stretchovision and start showing ALL their material in its original aspect ratio (and preferably start finding some animated material that IS widescreen and HD)?
     
  16. Nov 2, 2007 #116 of 135
    Tom Servo

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    Mass complaining to the content providers is the only way they'll know people's discontent with stretch-o-vision. After the new channels started going live, I fired off some friendly but concerned e-mails to several of the cable channels, including Cartoon Network - no one has written me back yet. Not a single provider.

    :(
     
  17. Nov 2, 2007 #117 of 135
    Badtz

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    Honestly, I usually don't care all that much about issues like this but the stretch-o-vision really does make my head hurt when I watch it.. and I know I'm not the only person who has this problem. I can't believe that a network, given the choice between something that some people don't like to watch (bars on the left and right), and something that actually makes people ill when they watch it, would intentionally choose the latter.

    I watch CN a lot for Adult Swim shows and anime on Saturday nights. Personally, I don't really care if the 16:9 shows are full-screen. For me, just the boost in picture quality that the upconversion gives is totally worth it. But watching a letterbox show stretched out across the frame is maddening. The fact that I have an HD version, but I still watch and record the SD versions of the shows really sucks.

    There has to be some way to get the attention of the higher-ups at Turner Networks who are making these decisions. Just sending emails won't work unless an overwhelming number of people do it.
     
  18. Nov 2, 2007 #118 of 135
    ktk0117

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    Maybe I'm alone here, but I watched, and I don't really see it. Maybe it's me, maybe it's my TV, I have a 57" CRT rear projection HDTV.

    Maybe if it was a Plasma or LCD would I be seeing this "Stretch-O-Vision?
     
  19. Nov 2, 2007 #119 of 135
    Tom Servo

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    It doesn't matter what kind of (widescreen) set you have, if CN is filling your screen and you didn't tell your TV / DirecTV receiver to do it, it's their stretch-o-vision.

    I can see where some folks might be more tolerant of this junk on some animated programs, but when they take a 16:9 program and stretch it out (with the black bars at the top and bottom also stretched) it really is fugly.
     
  20. Nov 7, 2007 #120 of 135
    sheltrk

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    I tried using the analog audio outs from my HR20-100 the other day, and the regularly repeating sub-second audio drops are still there--one every ~48 seconds. I was hoping it was a problem with the way my AV receiver was interpreting the DD (or PCM) signal, but no dice. As far as I can tell, Cartoon Network HD is the *only* channel I receive that has this bizarre audio problem.

    Any thoughts? Anyone else notice this?
     
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