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HD Discusson: Speed (Channel 607)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Doug Brott, Sep 18, 2007.

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  1. Oct 18, 2007 #61 of 122
    jamieh1

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    Watching the Nascar Busch Race on SpeedHD now and this race was on ESPN2HD, but it is showing in SD on the Speed HD channel. So it looks like we will not see any full screen HD until Speed HD actually launches.

    Looks as if Directv is adding channels that are not really HD. SPEED, FUEL, FX...
     
  2. Oct 18, 2007 #62 of 122
    Redlinetire

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    It's not the fault of D* that SPEED isn't sending out HD content.

    Complain to the brilliant minds at Fox...
     
  3. Oct 19, 2007 #63 of 122
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    Well, about 15 minutes from now we shall see if they are correct.

    /crosses fingers

    Scooter :)
     
  4. Oct 19, 2007 #64 of 122
    Scooter22

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    They lied. :(

    Let's just say, they were not well informed. Oh well. Perhaps they might get it together by race day.

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  5. Oct 19, 2007 #65 of 122
    DarkAudit

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    And it's the lunch hour at SPEED HQ in Charlotte, no there's no one available to complain to directly.
     
  6. Oct 19, 2007 #66 of 122
    Redlinetire

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    Still looks better than SD...
     
  7. Oct 19, 2007 #67 of 122
    Scooter22

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    Oh yes. Much, much better. :)

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  8. Oct 19, 2007 #68 of 122
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    yeah but i was really hoping for the 16x9
     
  9. Oct 19, 2007 #69 of 122
    DarkAudit

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    I couldn't get anyone I spoke to @ SPEED to speak about what was going on with the F1 broadcast today, but I did find out that a) they do receive the 16x9 feed that FOM sends out, and b) the HD channel in it's present state is a "soft launch" to get the bugs shaken out before the big launch in February.

    There's still qualifying and the race itself to go. I left voice mail messages with people and programming, and spoke with one guy in operations, so they are apparently aware of the situation.
     
  10. Oct 19, 2007 #70 of 122
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    Maybe the rest of the weekend will be better.

    It's Fox in Los Angeles that distributes all the Fox owned channels out to the providers, so I'd blame the Fox people who distribute the channel out to DirecTV. We know the speed guys can handle 16x9 cause they did it for the fox broadcasts earlier this year.
     
  11. Oct 19, 2007 #71 of 122
    tuff bob

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    I left feedback and got this reply:
    so i'm thinking its very unlikely that we'd get the 16x9 feed on speed hd (unless they show it on the SD channel too, which would mean letterbox + pillarbox on speed hd)
     
  12. Oct 19, 2007 #72 of 122
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    Wow, so much for our 16:9 hopes for this year, I guess. :(

    However, I suppose I will queue it up to record on the HR20, as it might still be better quality than the normal SD channel.

    Brad
     
  13. Oct 19, 2007 #73 of 122
    Redlinetire

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    So basically this channel isn't their feed in HD, it's simply D* taking it and sending it out as HD?

    That would explain a lot....:mad:
     
  14. Oct 19, 2007 #74 of 122
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    That response from Speed is concerning. It indicates that the SpeedHD channel does not yet exist, and DirecTV is upconverting the regular channel just so they can add another 'HD' channel to their list. THis is different than other channels which were broadcasting separately where we could blame the broadcaster. As far as I am concerned this is a phony HD channel.

    I could guess that maybe DirecTV did this because they were originally told by Speed that they would be ready, and after making marketing promises, D* and Speed agreed to do this so that the numbers could be met, however, it's just as possible that maybe Speed never made any promises to D*. All I know is that to me, upconverting someone's SD broadcast and calling it a national HD channel fails my smell test.
     
  15. Oct 19, 2007 #75 of 122
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    According to a couple people I spoke with at SPEED today when I called Charlotte about the F1 situation, they said that they were in fact broadcasting in HD on that channel, but did not have much HD programming to serve up yet. This is kind of a "soft launch" where they don't call much attention to themselves so they can test things out in real world situations prior to the official launch.
     
  16. Oct 19, 2007 #76 of 122
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    I taped F1 practice (2nd session) for Brazil. It's not 16:9. It does look better, since SPEED was one of the more compressed SD channels, but it's still pillarboxed and it's not at a basic level any higher res than the other SPEED.

    At least it isn't in stretch-o-vision.
     
  17. Oct 20, 2007 #77 of 122
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    For F1, remember that each race is produced by the host country. Many of them are using HD setups but it isn't universal. FOM is -trying- to change that, but since there isn't much if any money in it for Bernie, don't hold your breath.

    In any case, Speed/Fox is only contracted to get the world feed, which is SD 4:3, and probably will be for some time. If you've seen it on Speed or Fox this season in 16:9 your system either stretched or cropped it.

    Personally, I just hope that when DTV comes by tomorrow morning to fix my new install from two weeks ago they get here and fix it before quali starts, or at least get it done in one visit so I can see the race on Sunday.

    Apparently, the dish is moving. First I lost some of the HD channels, then I lost all of the HD channels, now I have no usable signal anywhere in the house. Kind of a bummer. Nice work, subcontractor guy. Ah well, at least DTV knocked $10/mo. off my bill for a year.

    Small consolation prize for missing Friday practice though. In case you haven't noticed I'm a serious F1 fan, so the prospect of not seeing the decisive race for the driver's championship is...mortifying.

    Kevin

    PS: I'm glad Hamilton DNF'd in Japan because he needed a reality check on his rapidly increasing smugness. I still want him to win it though, and he probably will. I hope Alonso stuffs it in a tire barrier (without injury of course) for being such a whiner. He's a really good driver and I used to be a fan, but for some reason he decided to take the mantle from Schumacher for being the biggest **** in F1.
     
  18. Oct 20, 2007 #78 of 122
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    I think he'll not be able to pass Hamilton for that award, with Hamilton's "I have nothing to learn from Alonso" comment.

    The people on this thread seem to think that the 16:9 SD feed is available. One even said Fox (who owns speed) has used it before for US coverage.
     
  19. Oct 20, 2007 #79 of 122
    kwsmithphoto

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    I've seen all but one race (Japan) on a fully sorted, high end HD system (not mine) and they were all 4:3.

    But I'm sure as y'all know, a cropped and downconverted SD signal from a good 16:9 HD feed almost always look better than a "native" SD production chain. It's got nothing to do with resolution, they're just using newer gear that looks better, from lens to the bird truck.
     
  20. Oct 20, 2007 #80 of 122
    DarkAudit

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    I spoke with a couple people in Programming and operations yesterday at SPEED HQ in Charlotte. They told me that they did in fact receive a 16:9 widescreen feed.

    You'll notice a lot of times the highlights they use when they return from a commercial break uses a widescreen picture.
     
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