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HD Discusson: Speed (Channel 607)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Doug Brott, Sep 18, 2007.

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  1. Oct 20, 2007 #81 of 122
    Redlinetire

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    Yes, the European PAL feed from the FIA is a widescreen format. But the resolution is only 576 or something lines. Not HD, but still better than standard US 480. Part of the problem of getting europeans switched over to HD is that most people thing their signal is fine...
     
  2. Oct 20, 2007 #82 of 122
    DarkAudit

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    Upconverted 16:9 would still be an improvement over upconverted 4:3.
     
  3. Oct 20, 2007 #83 of 122
    Redlinetire

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    Well, this is FOX we're talking about... :lol:

    There's no guarantee...look at how bad they do the ALCS!
     
  4. Oct 20, 2007 #84 of 122
    DarkAudit

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    Fox only retransmits the video they're sent from FOM. I don't think Fox had any hand in producing the USGP video this year, either.
     
  5. Oct 20, 2007 #85 of 122
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    12:06 pm ..... qualifying? trucks!! ......Grrrrrrrr!
     
  6. Oct 20, 2007 #86 of 122
    tuff bob

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    buddy of mine in london is feeding through ITV 4 ;)
     
  7. Oct 20, 2007 #87 of 122
    jhruth

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    Yeee Haaaa !

    Do HillBilly's have HDTV ?

    WTH ?!??!?
     
  8. Oct 20, 2007 #88 of 122
    kwsmithphoto

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    I have noticed that but those bumpers are made by Speed, not FOM. I wonder why the don't push the whole show at 16:9 if that's what they're getting. I'd rather see bars on the top and bottom of an SD monitor than side bars on a widescreen.

    Ah well, I see in another message that Speed says next year they're going 16:9 with F1 which is good news. Bad news is that I missed quali... Those times sure are close though, this should be a good race!
     
  9. Oct 20, 2007 #89 of 122
    gcisko

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    Where did you see the notice???

    One thing is for sure... The SpeedHD picture (though still 4:3) is way more crisp and less pixelated than the Speed normal channel. So there is that. I think if they were to do 16:9 for DirecTV Only people that have SpeedHD there would be too high of an uproar. I would be OK with it though. :grin:
     
  10. Oct 20, 2007 #90 of 122
    Keeska

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    If you are referring to the three F1 events shown on Fox this year, yes they were in 16:9 format and were sharper, better looking then anything speed has done so far. Fox on their web site hinted at the time (but did not confirm) that they were using the PAL 16:9 feed and upconverting it to 720p. I can't find the information now though.
     
  11. Oct 20, 2007 #91 of 122
    Keeska

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    I have not been able to find anything besides upconverted SD in 4:3 format on Speed HD. Is this really an HD channel or just Speed SD upconverted to 720p? I know DirecTV can only broadcast what they receive from Speed so they have no control over it but what is Speed trying to pull on their viewers by calling it "HD"?
     
  12. Oct 20, 2007 #92 of 122
    techdimwit

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    Speed is not calling it HD. Speed has announced they will go HD in Feb, 08 - just in time for Daytona.
     
  13. Oct 20, 2007 #93 of 122
    Keeska

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    So it is DirecTV calling it Speed HD? Shouldn't it be removed from the count of HD channels if it is just Speed SD? Or should the real HD channels be counted twice? Upconverted SD is not HD so credit should be given to real HD channels.
     
  14. Oct 20, 2007 #94 of 122
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    D* should call this it's higher definition package not HD. It is higher definition than the SD counterpart channel sure, but it is certainly NOT true HD.

    What really irks me is that all the FOX HD gear is there in Martinsville RIGHT NOW but yet we are having to watch the truck race today in 4:3. It does look quite a bit better sure but it IS NOT true HD.
     
  15. Oct 20, 2007 #95 of 122
    harsh

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    It would confuse people terribly if they called it Speed ED. ;)
     
  16. Oct 20, 2007 #96 of 122
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    I've been watching the American Le Mans series race live and out of the blue the sound will go away. I can get it back by changing channels and going back to it again. Odd.

    Scooter :)
     
  17. Oct 21, 2007 #97 of 122
    kwsmithphoto

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    Earlier in the thread someone posted an email response from someone at Speed. Plan so far is 16:9 starting with Australia '08. It won't be full res though, from what I read somewhere else, just 16:9.

    The Dynamic DTV Duo didn't make it to my place to fix my dish until after quali so I missed it, but from looking at the diff between Speed HD and SD tonight I see a difference - mpeg2 vs. mpeg4! The squigglies and squares have been replaced by serious banding issues along tonal gradients, indicating a distinct lack of dynamic range. It's better overall in most respects but the banding problem really bugs me. It's not just Speed HD, it's all the HD channels.

    Don't know why, maybe the tuner's downsampling to my monitor's 720p is the culprit, I'm not sure. Lobbing off dynamic range would be an effective way to reduce bandwidth though so I'm guessing that's the problem(?). I've only had HD on DTV for a few days so I don't know what's going on, it could be entirely on my end, I don't know.
     
  18. Oct 21, 2007 #98 of 122
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    I'm 1:46 in so far, and it has cut out once, but only for a second. My amplifier recovered, as is usual.
     
  19. Oct 21, 2007 #99 of 122
    gcisko

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    SpeedHD is not SD. Anyone that compares the 2 will see that normal Speed is way more pixelated than SpeedHD (even in 4:3 aspect). So while it is 4:3, SpeedHD is much sharper. It will make a bigger difference, the bigger your screen is.
     
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    So, it looks like SPEED SD should look. Still SD.
     
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