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HD-DVD vs Blu-Ray War Thread - Update: Toshiba formally announces end of HD DVD

Discussion in 'The Movies' started by Nick, Apr 23, 2007.

  1. Apr 23, 2007 #1 of 3123
    Nick

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    In an effort to consolidate the plethora of news reports and press releases about the
    great HD DVD vs Blu-Ray battle, I am starting this thread. If you have news or views
    about the fight for hi-def format superiority, whether about disc sales or hardware
    news, please feel free to contribute to this thread.

    Moderator update (Tom Robertson): Toshiba has formally announced it will cease HD DVD business. Press Release
     
  2. Apr 23, 2007 #2 of 3123
    Nick

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    April 23, 2007 - Sales of the Blu-ray HDTV DVD again beat rival HD DVD in March giving the
    Sony-backed format a 69-31 percent sales lead in the first three months of 2007, says Nielsen
    Video Scan. Blu-ray backers say the widening lead is evidence of the format pulling away from
    its competition; HD DVD supporters say their format will rebound thanks to lower player prices
    and new title releases in time for the summer. - SkyReport
     
  3. Apr 23, 2007 #3 of 3123
    PetSounds66

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    I went HD-DVD last June...which means that Blu-Ray will likely win...:nono2:
     
  4. Apr 23, 2007 #4 of 3123
    Cholly

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    My guess is that the pendulum will swing the other way now that Toshiba has a sub $400 DVD HD player on the market. Blu-Ray has been the market leader due to the Sony PS3. I'm one of the many who have decided on DVD HD because of the price of the Toshiba player.
     
  5. Apr 23, 2007 #5 of 3123
    bluemoon737

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    I agree with the low priced Toshiba player helping, but once Pirates of the Caribbean, Cars, and Spiderman hit the shelves it will result in a HUGE spike for Blu-Ray. Content will likely win this "war".
     
  6. Apr 23, 2007 #6 of 3123
    Chris Blount

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    I have both so don't really care. :) I would like to see HD-DVD come out on top but as bluemoon said, content will play a huge factor and Blu-Ray has the edge on that.
     
  7. Apr 23, 2007 #7 of 3123
    Michael D'Angelo

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    I have a PS3 for Blu-Ray and the HD-DVD add on for my Xbox360 for now. That was the cheapest way to go for now. When one of them win or a nice player they will play both come out I will buy a nice player than.
     
  8. Apr 23, 2007 #8 of 3123
    gazzie4

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    Don't forget what Matrix did for DVD and since we are only 3-4 weeks away from it hitting HD DVD, and not blu ray (may come out later this year on blu ray), we'll see what really happens in this market
     
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    Nick

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    Samsung's new BD-UP5000 sits squarely on the high-definition fence

    If you're an AV pacifist then the whole next-generation DVD format war will no doubt be as
    distasteful to you as kicking kittens. Luckily, Samsung wants you to preserve your moral
    code by finding a peaceful compromise. Its new BS-UP5000 will play both HD DVD and
    Blu-ray without so much as a cross word or angry gesture.

    So, what does this mean for the formats? Well, the bad news for peace lovers is that one
    of the formats is going to have to die...

    More @ MSN.com
     
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    Cholly

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    Both camps have their exclusives. In addition to the aforementioned Ultimate Matrix trilogy, HD DVD has Batman Begins, Caddyshack, Casablanca, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, The Perfect Storm, Phantom of the Opera, Poseidon, Terminator 3, Troy and V for Vendetta. Granted, not all are great movies, but they definitely have the visual "WOW!" effect.
     
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    harsh

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    The problem with DVDA and SACD was that the content was essentially the same and you most don't have time to settle down in front of the home theatre system to listen to music while others are trying to watch TV. Anybody remember CD+G???

    With the advanced interactive features and HD capabilities of the DVD HD video formats, I think they're sufficiently differentiated from DVD to make them worth going after.
     
  14. Apr 27, 2007 #14 of 3123
    Nick

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    PC Magazine:
    More @ http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,2122715,00.asp
     
  15. Apr 30, 2007 #15 of 3123
    Nick

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    The HD DVD vs. Blu-Ray format war will not be
    won by either format, but by dual-format players.


    Dual format high-definition DVD players will be the norm, says research

    When LG Electronics launched its Super Multi Blue Player at the recent CES exhibition, it signaled an exit strategy from the "war of the high-definition DVD formats," according to research firm ABI Research. By creating a player that will accommodate both HD-DVD and Blu-ray discs, the Korean manufacturer may have created a precedent that the rest of the industry will have to follow. ABI Research forecasts that such universal players will become the norm, not the exception, benefiting confused consumers unwilling to commit to one DVD camp or the other.

    "We believe that universal players will come to dominate the high-definition DVD player market," says Steve Wilson, ABI Research's principal analyst of consumer electronics. Samsung is expected to release its own universal player soon, and others, including large CE vendors, may follow suit before long. ABI Research forecasts sales of 2.4 million players in 2007, rising to 55 million in 2011. ...

    More @ www.abiresearch.com/abiprdisplay.jsp?pressid=796
     
  16. Apr 30, 2007 #16 of 3123
    wakajawaka

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    Just a heads up, while the LG does play HD DVD, it does not support any of the interactive menus. Now, I'm sure that will all change soon and we'll have a 100% compatible universal player.
     
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    wakajawaka

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    What really hurt DVD-A and SACD was the iPod (or mp3 players in general). Hi-Res audio is a niche market. I hope DVD-A and SACD don't completly die off, there are still a few of us out there that like to just sit and listen to music.
     
  18. Apr 30, 2007 #18 of 3123
    tomcrown1

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    AGREED!!!
     
  19. Apr 30, 2007 #19 of 3123
    Chris Blount

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    I agree but the reality is that in this new world of portability, just sitting a listening to music at home is rare. Heck, most of my music listening is done in my car which is where most of my money goes for audio.

    The other thing is that the older I get, the less high resolution audio becomes a factor. I can barely hear above 15 KHZ so investing in high end audio electronics and hi res music is not practical. At least my eyes are still 20/20 with no need for glasses thus, Hi-Def video is what I love. :)
     
  20. Apr 30, 2007 #20 of 3123
    Cholly

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    Chris, it's a common misconception that people with hearing losses or inability to hear extreme high or low frequencies won't benefit from high end sound systems. In actuality, the reverse is probably true, due to their more accurate reproduction of sound. You can perform a simple test -- listen to some music with wide dynamic range on a portable radio or common car radio or a low cost sound system, then listen to the same msic on a quality sound system. Although this is an oversimplification, I'd be surprised if you didn't notice the difference.
     

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