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HD DVRs, Receivers, and R22: Nov. 2011 Release Issues/Discussion (HD GUI)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Stuart Sweet, Oct 28, 2011.

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  1. braven

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    Anyone know when Harrisburg, PA is supposed to be getting this? (sorry if this has been talked about, I couldn't find it)
     
  2. RACJ2

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    The schedule is in another thread [link] and Harrisburg is on 1-12-12.
     
  3. nuspieds

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    Yeah, I know...both are annoying but the reason the banner annoys me a bit less is because I spend more time fast forwarding and rewinding than I do calling up the banner.

    I would think, though, that this type of feedback would have been reported during their beta testing, so I'm really surprised to see it roll out this way.
     
  4. nuspieds

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    Yeah, thanks, I have that setup already.

    There are a couple of shows that I watch that have a topics "progress bar" and so I do in-show fast forwarding and rewinding. But, yes, outside the show during commercials, at least the SKIP helps. :)
     
  5. P Smith

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    Would be nice to now what current version each of you got, because the version already changes - we saw a couple of those with HD GUI.
     
  6. nuspieds

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    I checked my HR20-700 this morning and it has been updated, so that was just one day after my HR24-500.
     
  7. Drucifer

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    The first HD version seem to focus more on maintaining functionality rather than doing graphic niceties.
     
  8. braven

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    Thank you kindly.
     
  9. gully_foyle

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    Got this yesterday, and my first thought was to go find the graphics transparency option and turn it on. Sadly, there isn't one yet.

    IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT to provide transparency, as well as to make the obstructing areas smaller. The art department may be proud of their new graphical displays, but most of us signed up for the stuff that these are blocking. PARTICULARLY the status bar background, which should be non-existent, as before.

    It is passing odd that the new HD display takes up more area with less information.
     
  10. mx6bfast

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    It was nice of them to black out so much of the screen. Maybe next time they can be even nicer and put a big ass D* logo on the side which takes up even more of the screen.
     
  11. adamson

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    Just a note here...

    This last NR which caused a break in my internet connection has happened to others I see. It took a lot of resetting network connections on each dvr, rebooting modem, router etc to get up and running again.

    Just posted this to let the CE peoples know and Stuart.

    And Drucifer, you have went above and beyond in helping others and deserve some major kudos. You are one of a kind!
     
  12. Drucifer

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    I would think, this new GUI proves there is no Art Department.
     
  13. Drucifer

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    I wouldn't suggest that, because you'll never know if that would be taken at face value rather than as sarcasm.
     
  14. SledgeHammer

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    So I'm still seeing the same issue as yesterday... that I have scroll effects set to OFF, but the guide is still using scrolling effects. I have an HR20.
     
  15. Athlon646464

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    Turn scrolling On, scroll some stuff, then turn scrolling off and try again. Rinse and repeat one more time if that does not work.

    If you still don't have any luck, try a soft re-boot (using the menu).
     
  16. chuck1996

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    I suppose I have the same complaints as others regarding the new GUI, and the general dark appearance, but I'm sure I'll adjust to it. My own pet peeve, however, is the apparent size of the PIG insert. It definitely seems smaller to me. I'm surprised I haven't seen mention of it, or perhaps its just my interpretation, and maybe its not really smaller at all.
     
  17. nuspieds

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    I understand that there are priorities when it comes to new functionality, but this is a nicety that already existed on the previous versions, so I can't see how it could have been an afterthought.

    As such, that to me is not maintaining functionality.

    But I'm thinking that they must have some reason, technical or otherwise, as to why they rolled it out this way because it is just too blatant of a miss. So, I remain optimistic that the fix will be on its way sometime and all I can do in the meantime is grin and bear it. :grin:
     
  18. twentysided

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    I think you are probably right; they had other reasons. If (as has been mentioned previously) the update was coded fresh then they probably had different priorities for this project. Since it is "blazing fast" as reported by many users, I suspect they highly prioritized speed over the graphical niceties you are mentioning. Probably as a result of feedback from their customers - and they certainly have had plenty of time to document that with the previous interface given that I have had it since I started with them, (I think) over 5 years ago.

    As someone who creates software for a living (defining the vision for our systems, guiding requirement gathering from the user side and then leading the teams through execution), I have seen a lot of projects hamstrung by insisting that users will not accept a new system with new features, higher efficiency and reliability without including "nice-to-have" features of the solution they have today. As a result, projects often get delayed or worse.

    In some cases, the features they have today are built out over time as a result of the previous technical landscape - which will inevitably change with the rollout of the new system. You'd be surprised how many software projects have vestigial tails right from the first release as a result of this. I don't think transparency falls into that category; I'm just describing how difficult it can be to keep focus on a big software project. Given the hardware variation this software requires alone (much less the enormous feature list that impacts D* bottom line like accurate channel offering lists, on-demand, etc), it is easy to see this was a massive undertaking with varied business drivers.

    While I admittedly don't have the update yet - I do understand your comment and my personal opinion is that I would rather have the speed and reliability than the transparency in the early release. While I have grown accustomed to the niceties of the existing interface, I can tell you that I stopped shopping for a new STB when I found out what was in this update, because my top frustration (by a country mile) is the response time of the current interface.

    That said, as I stated I do agree with you about transparency and I would gladly join you in asking for transparency as an important nice-to-have for when they prioritize future updates.
     
  19. syclonedave

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    NOW THIS IS JUST REDICULOS !!

    Well I got the mandatory DL last night.

    So I got to wake up to a big full screen mess.on my old tube bedroom TV Re: the res. setting & that sh*t.

    So you press the button, so you can see what your trying to watch, & sure as Shinola it changes the res. to 480. So then EVERY **ING TIME I go to watch 1 of the other HD sets Iv'e got on the same receiver I supposed to re-set the res AGAIN!!! WHAT A **ING JOKE!

    DTV has really **-up this time. How **ing STUPID!


    I never knew the old guide was or wasn't HD. This isn't any clearer.


    Is DTV trying to save on band width with almost NO colors on this POS ?
    They should have gone back to the Hughes theme where movies were 1 color, sports were another, etc. SO much better.
    Right, this HD black & white is much better than the old blue & yellow.

    Look how tiny the green time bar is. This is better???

    Now there are barely NO lines between the channles... SUCKS !
    Look how tiny the grey channel #'s are next to the station letters, almost non-existant.
    Since when is grey on black a improvment over the old "readable " version
    I guess the genius that designed this knows something more than most every traffic sign in the country?

    When FF the 2 & 3 almost look the same now.
    On the quick tune the blue hi-lite, isn't It's a joke, again.

    It's not any faster on my HR-23, in fact it's slower. I had to press the same button a # of time to get it to respond.

    Plus the caractors ARE SMALLER. So, how can that be an improvment?
    Now I can't even read the tube set unless I put on my glasses.....**ing LAME!!

    And, I don't need "You might like" "My DTV S**T, what is this **ing TIVO

    Now it seems you have to go through an addition step when going to set-up. I install these things every week, that's all I need, more work to get the same results.

    All I can say is & hope there's enough flack about this "improvment" that DTV can see they **ed up & give those that don't like this !@*t to go back to the old "readable" version.

    Maybe DTV hired the boneheads that came up with the "NEW" coke from years ago, the new coke cans, or that idiot over at Netflix.

    Or Honda, they're already RE-RE designing the new Accord. After less than one year.

    I know this is going to have a lot of my elder & hard of seeing customers not happy with it & another reason to go else where.


    Give these idiots a raise & promote them to another dept. !
     
  20. mx6bfast

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    That post made me smile.
     
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