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HD DVRs, Receivers, and R22: Winter 2012 Release Issues/Discussion

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Scott Kocourek, Jan 27, 2012.

  1. TomCat

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    90% of the lighting in my house is LED lighting. I know a thing or two about that, and I know a thing or two about board-level current draw and circuit design after working with it closely for decades. There is also extensive circuitry to get the "blue ring" to do the dances it does. Everything that I do know and have seen posted up until right now points to about 10 watts, and the pilot lights are the smallest fraction of that. Kill-a-watts are notoriously inaccurate, especially for low current draws. The findings I was talking about used a true amp meter. You can try to prove me wrong, but so far, you haven't even begun to. So, I have no choice but to stand by what I know and by what I've read here on the forum before and on other forums.

    And I just realized that this is just another internet d***-measuring exercise that I don't really care about. Your's is probably bigger, if that makes you happy. And them adding this feature is a really horrible burden to place on us, isn't it?
     
  2. dpeters11

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    Dash mirrors yellow. You would use a normal delete and confirm.
     
  3. RunnerFL

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    For the same reason as PIG trickplay removal, the new remotes.

    There's no new way, you just have to use the slow way of using the red button, then confirming, then waiting. Much slower than just -- and the recording is gone.
     
  4. RunnerFL

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    People have posted numbers for you proving the savings is negligible. Why continue to argue??
     
  5. Sgt. Slaughter

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    Wow really? Blasted you? Not at all and I even stated how it seemed your post sounded like to me and how I initially might of missunderstood what you were trying to say.

    Then when you said ALL would use THIS new remote, I even asked where this info came from. You told me to Google...

    I'm done with this.

    If you wanna discuss this more PM me.
     
  6. Herdfan

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    Teays...
    Thank you!
     
  7. Sgt. Slaughter

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    If you think they did the math wrong then I'm sure everyone here would be eager to see your figures when you get around to do it.
    Otherwise till then i gotta side with Runner here as the person that pulled the figures should be correct. I honestly don't understand why you think there would be much more power saved with this than before though....

    That should be it for now on the subject till you or someone else actually pulls their own real world data for is to see too.
     
  8. ShapeGSX

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    I don't understand. If the new remote doesn't have the dash button, then why should those of us with the old remotes that still have the button be affected by this functionality neutering?
     
  9. dpeters11

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    The RVU remote does have a dash from the pics I've seen and were posted earlier.
     
  10. RunnerFL

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    The new remote has the dash, it doesn't have yellow. Dash, a single dash, now does what yellow does/did.
     
  11. TomCat

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    An excellent question (finally). Why DO you continue to argue? all I have said all along is "these are the numbers my prior research has revealed, more than once, and from what I know about board-level electronics, they make sense to me so I'm standing by them." That is not "arguing" with you or anyone else, that is nothing more than simply taking an educated position based on limited information but sound knowledge and standing by it until proven incorrect. Still waiting, BTW.

    None of us has intimate knowledge on any of this unless we were the designer or work on the line where these are manufactured or repaired, so I'm afraid that's just going to have to be enough for you. I'm not so stubborn I won't admit that some doubt has been thrown; my eyes are wide open. I am reasonable and am always willing to be proven wrong, and I have a track record right here of being magnanimous whenever I am (which is pretty rarely). And if you actually could prove me wrong that would give me a chance to actually prove that to you at least, beyond all doubt. I'm not stubbornly unreasonable; quite the contrary. Having an open mind is how we learn. So bring it (real proof) on.

    tick...tick...tick

    I thought so.

    OK, well, in the mean time, let me "post a number" like everybody else. I'm "people" too, after all.

    Standby = 0.04 watts*
    On = 15,000 watts*



    * approximately

    I even indented them and enboldened a larger font for you so that you can see just HOW true numbers and words posted in this forum must always be and how there can never ever be any dispute. By the way, I also invented, not just discovered, electricity; that Franklin fellow was just flying his kite next to me.

    I'm also providing you with exactly as much empirical evidence as everyone else has provided.

    So there is is, "The Truth" in large-font black and white, and I guess that just has to be proof, according to your reasoning (would using Helvetica have made it even "more truer?"). No, I did NOT pull those particular numbers out of my...oh wait, maybe I did. Maybe others did too. They still are just words. Words, by themselves, prove nothing. I'll let you in on a little secret: "0.04" might be a little low, and "15,000" might be just a tad high.

    "I stuck my finger in the light socket, so it must be 110 volts"
    has about as much credibility as what I've seen posted in this thread. How many idiots one gets to agree with them, especially those bringing with them zero empirical evidence, is not really a good way to disprove something. The best any of us have been able to come up with so far is?...

    ...that the results are conflicting. That's it. The final tally. The bottom line.

    I could be right; I could be wrong. Anyone else could be right, anyone else could be wrong. You just don't really know and have no way to prove or disprove anything. That must just KILL you.
    (wait a minute...was that a threat? I thought I saw the word "kill" followed somewhat later by the word "you", and now I'm really worried for your safety because I love nothing more than to waste time taking crap completely out of context)​
    Me? I couldn't care less what people I have never met and know nothing about might think. They can all talk to the hand.
     
  12. sigma1914

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    Talk to the hand? Wow...that's mature.
     
  13. Scott Kocourek

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    Please keep on topic and let's not discuss each other, I really don't want to have to delete the posts in this thread.

    Take any disagreements to PM and keep this thread clean.
     
  14. TheRatPatrol

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    You're very welcome.

    I love this new Pandora feature, had it on this afternoon while doing stuff around the house, works great, never really used it before.

    Also like the new trick play bar.

    So what else exactly has changed/been added?
     
  15. RunnerFL

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    I'm not about to waste my time reading your whole diatribe. All I know is people have produced FACTS that disprove your THEORY. You clearly are standing in the wrong spot.
     
  16. Sgt. Slaughter

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    Just for reference for you here's the latest energy star stats on STBs....

    http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm?fuseaction=find_a_product.showProductGroup&pgw_code=ST

    Just by that it shows power differences in testing being on versus in sleep mode...
     
  17. RunnerFL

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    - The remote key changes you've seen discussed.
    - Pandora
    - Youtube was moved to its own app in the "Extras" menu.
    - Progress/Trickplay bar tweaking.
    - Some other GUI tweaking and polishing, like a blue 3D look behind chosen icons.
    - 2 Second banner time is back.
    - The Energy Star stuff.

    That's all that come to mind right this moment.
     
  18. Sixto

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    Interesting how low they've gotten the H25.
     
  19. dod1450

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    It is only available in the moiutain time zone. No schedule time for other time zone.
     
  20. albriedis

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    Love it! Thanks D*!!!
     

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