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HD nonSWM dish

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Installation/MDU Discussion' started by evotz, Aug 16, 2014.

  1. evotz

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    This may be a dumb question. I searched and didn't find anything, but I may not have been searching for the right terms. Learning about new things is interesting to me though.

    Can you get HD from DirecTV with a non SWM dish? Such as a regular SL5 or SL3? You can't get as many tuners on those, but if you only need 2 or 3 tuners, would they work and receive HD?
     
  2. jimmie57

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    Yes, the non SWM version / legacy dishes have 4 coax connections and they will drive 4 tuners for HD or SD reception with no other equipment other than the receivers and connection coax required.
    If the dish is a Slimline 5 it will get the 99c, 99s, 101w, 103ca, 103cb and the 103s, 110 and 119. The s is a spot beam for local channels.
    The Slimline 3 is the same except it will not get the 110 or the 119 satellites.
     
  3. Bill Broderick

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    Probably. If depends on the receiver(s). HR25's require SWM (so do Genies, but you're not asking about thoes). If you're talking about any other receivers, you would need one cable from the dish to each of the tuners. You will also need a B-Band Converter for each tuner. If you wanted to go beyond 4 tuners, you would need a Zinwell WB68 multiswitch. That will allow you to have up to 8 tuners.
     
  4. jimmie57

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    Thanks Bill, I left out the B-Band converters for sure.
    Of course if he happens to get an HR23 they do not use them which I am certain you know. Just posting for the TS.
     
  5. peds48

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    Actually, you can get as many tuners as you want with the right equipment connected to the LNB.
     
  6. slice1900

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    Any idea what the largest MDU is? I'm sure there must be a few tall NYC apartment buildings with a single dish on the roof serving 1000+ units.
     
  7. peds48

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    No idea, but one time I stayed in a hotel with 200 and some rooms with DirecTV® HD receiver in every room
     
  8. evotz

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    Does DirecTV do any nonSWM installs any more? What HD receivers do they give to customers? Do they lease out H23 or H24 receivers any more?
     
  9. peds48

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    1. ALL new installs are SWM

    2. H23 and above

    3. Yup. But there is no guarantee model
     
  10. evotz

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    If you upgraded a dish to the new slimline model, if the current dish already has 4 lines running from it, how likely are they to use the SWM8?

    If someone's got an old receiver like a D10 receiver, it would require either the SWM8 or a nonSWM setup, correct? Would DirecTV catch all of that in their system and install the appropriate parts? I guess I'm afraid that if someone was upgrading, DirecTV would send all SWM stuff and legacy components like the D10 wouldn't work.
     
  11. dpeters11

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    I believe an official install doesn't use the legacy ports or SWM8. They'd swap out a D10 for a D12.
     
  12. peds48

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    Chances of getting a SWM are very slim. If you have an old legacy receiver DirecTV® would do as much as they can to try to upgrade that receiver to something compatible. Perhaps if you were to get a Genie they will give you a mini to replace the D10. If you are getting only an HD receiver, the system will automatically trigger a “system swap” for a D12 for that legacy D10.
     

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