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HD Receiver Installation FAQ

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Installation/MDU Discussion' started by Milominderbinder2, Oct 19, 2006.

  1. Oct 19, 2006 #1 of 135
    Milominderbinder2

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    Welcome to the HD Receiver Installation FAQ!

    Note:
    1. Only an HR20 (not HR21) can receive all of your local HD channels (OTA).
    How to get an HR20 instead of HR21 (Thanks to Hasan)
    2. The H20 and H21 are not HD DVRs (Digital Video Recorders) and can not Rcord or Pause.

    These are the most Frequently Asked Questions about HD Receiver Installation and Setup. While these are specific to the HD DVR PLUS HR20 or HR21, these concepts apply to all satellite receivers. Let's get started!

    What do I need to know when I place my order?
    HD DVR (HR20/21) Ordering Tips

    What are the basic steps I could take to insure a great installation?
    → See the Receiver-Installation-Tips.pdf link below.

    What satellite dish do I need? Will the existing dish work?
    5-LNB Multi-Satellite Dish

    What will I be asked to sign once the installation is complete?
    Installation ChecklistAgreement

    Do you have a cheat sheet to help me find all of the features?
    Undocumented Tips & Tricks

    How Do I program my Remote to also control my TV, DVR, stereo or another satellite receiver?
    Remote Control Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)

    What can help me transition from TiVo?
    TiVo Users Survival Guide

    Why would I want to connect a TV antenna to my HD Receiver? How do I do it?
    Local HD Channel SetupGet More Great Local HD Channels

    How do I connect more than one TV to an HR20 or HR21?
    Connecting The HD DVR+ to Multiple TVs

    How do I setup my HD DVR+ so that I can I listen to MP3 music and see jpg photos?
    HR20: Networking and ViiVNetworking with Windows Media PlayerNetwork Configuration

    Do you have any other links that might help me?
    Installation ForumGrounding Requirements
    Single Wire Multiswitch (SWM)
    Customer Installation Support:1-888-355-7530Dish Installation Videos

    We hope that this will give you a great start with your HD Receiver. You have dozens of other resources in the larger HD DVR FAQ.

    - Craig

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  2. Oct 19, 2006 #2 of 135
    matto

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    Awesome compilation! Thanks for taking the time to write it.
    A couple of minor nits:

    in step 3, the dish is an "AT9". "A9" only comes from Amazon ;-)

    in step 12, you might want to note that sometimes a reset is required in order to get DD working. This may have been resolved in a recent release, but I don't recall seeing it mentioned in release notes.

    Great work! Thanks again for compiling the tips.
     
  3. Oct 21, 2006 #3 of 135
    Milominderbinder2

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    Thank you for your help! I incorporated your ideas and a number of other ideas sent privately including:

    + How and why you need surge supression and a battery backup.
    + The Frequency Translator Modules need to be connected when the new content is released next year.
    + Specific steps to set up Dolby Digital and parental controls

    Thank you for yet more ideas!

    Earl, can these installation tips be added to the Tips and Tricks for the HR20 sticky note? Think how many problems could have been prevented if everyone had known these tips and tricks before they first installed their HR-20's.

    -Craig
     
  4. Oct 21, 2006 #4 of 135
    matto

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    Another suggestion, what you refer to as FTMs are actually "BBCs", or BroadBand Converter modules. They allow the unit (which is designed with FTM functionality) to work without one.

    The other side of the FTM will likely replace what we're now using for a multiswitch, and will allow two tuners in the DVR to share a single line to the FTM multiswitch replacement.

    Other than that, it looks good!
     
  5. Oct 21, 2006 #5 of 135
    Milominderbinder2

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    Matto,

    Thank you for more great ideas. I updated again. I have also created a companion piece for everyday tips:

    http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=67933

    Hope you like that as well. Please let me know you corrections and ideas for that one as well.
     
  6. Oct 21, 2006 #6 of 135
    Jomanscool2

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    First off, thank you, this is very usefull information. I will probably go buy a few battery backups soon (been meaning to for a while, now I have more motivation.

    Second, my installer did not plug in the included BBC (I still have them, though). Currently, the direct tv goes straight from the dish, to the multiswitch they gave me, to the boxes. Two of the feeds from the multiswitch go directly to the HR-20, nothing in between.

    What should I do with these two BBCs, if anything?

    From what I can tell, everything seems to be running fine. But who knows.
     
  7. Oct 21, 2006 #7 of 135
    litzdog911

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    Keep them. You'll need to install them when the new Ka-band MPEG4 satellites go active early next year.
     
  8. Oct 21, 2006 #8 of 135
    Jomanscool2

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    Thanks litzdog, but would there be any consequence to installing them now? I mean, wheres a better place to keep them than actually connected to the box?


    P.s., I love the picture, reminds me there are actually people out there I'm talking to and not just robots :grin:
     
  9. Oct 21, 2006 #9 of 135
    litzdog911

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    You can safely install them now. Some folks have had issues with dead BBC's though, so be prepared to remove them if you have problems.
     
  10. Oct 21, 2006 #10 of 135
    paulman182

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    If you install them now you can tell if you are receiving signals on the 99 and 103 sats or not. The signals will not be strong because they are spotbeams pointed in other directions, but you will be able to tell that the BBCs are letting the signals through and you are ready for the new sats.

    Then remove them if you have problems and call D*!
     
  11. Oct 22, 2006 #11 of 135
    getrusty

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    Good job but I disagree with the HDMI being problematic. I am using it on 3 systems and all are flawless.
     
  12. Oct 22, 2006 #12 of 135
    litzdog911

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    You're lucky. The situation is certainly improving, but some folks are still have compatibility issues.
     
  13. Oct 22, 2006 #13 of 135
    Milominderbinder2

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    UNOFFICIAL HR-20 Tips & Tricks Version 2.0 is Complete!

    The companion piece to the Installation Tips is the UNOFFICIAL HR-20 Tips & Tricks. Version 2.0 of those tips is now available at:

    http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=67933

    There is a new page of added tips and many corrections and clarifications.

    Again, thank you to everyone for your ideas and especially to Earl for making this possible.

    Please keep the ideas flowing!

    -Craig
     
  14. Oct 22, 2006 #14 of 135
    whitey2755

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    Vey, Very helpful. Thank you very much!!!:hurah:
     
  15. Oct 23, 2006 #15 of 135
    nFavor

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    I absolutely agree that a battery backup is a good idea but you don't mention the biggest reason that I use it. You'll never have to wait the x minutes it takes to restart the unit if the power dips out for a second.

    The first time that most anyone looses x minutes of a recording, they'll quickly go out and get a UPS for their unit!
     
  16. Oct 24, 2006 #16 of 135
    Milominderbinder2

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    I will note that at the very least you can lose part of a recording to a power dip unless you have a UPS. I will add this note and many other feedback notes to the Installation Tips and get the new version posted today. -Craig
     
  17. Oct 24, 2006 #17 of 135
    Milominderbinder2

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    Thank you to so many who have sent ideas and corrections, especially 911 medic and nFavor.

    The HR-20 Installation Tips version 2.0 has been posted.

    Please keep the ideas coming!

    - Craig
     
  18. Oct 26, 2006 #18 of 135
    Milominderbinder2

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    Cabling issues represent many of the calls to Tech Support. There are simple steps you can take to help prevent most of them. Those new tips have been added.

    ADDED:

    As to HDMI, we have seen maybe a hundred people state that by going from HDMI to Component they solved problems. We have heard from many that HDMI was working great for a while and then problems began.

    We have not seen one person say that they had Component problems that HDMI solved. Tech support has seen the same pattern and is asking users not to use HDMI unless they have to.

    One answer might be to run HDMI in one Video Input on your TV and Component on another. You always would have a fail safe that way if you had problems with HDMI. A true nerd could flip back and forth endlessly to check out the picture quality on every channel!

    Take care,

    Craig
     
  19. Oct 27, 2006 #19 of 135
    gator5000e

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    Altamonte...
    Hey guys, this is a great section, but I just got the HR20 today to install tomorrow morning. I am upgrading from the HR10-250 on my own without an official install. I recently moved so the AT9 dish has been installed and wired by a D* installer. I think I understand that I just pull the cables out of the HR10 and plug them into the corresponding plugs on the HR20.

    However, I do not see any instruction on what the BBC modules are for and where and how they are to be installed.

    Also, do i have to call D* to activate the box even though I already have HD DVR service? I am going to move my HR10 to my bedroom.

    Thanks for any ideas and sorry for the dumb questions.
     
  20. Oct 27, 2006 #20 of 135
    Milominderbinder2

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    You should be able to unplug them from the old box and plug them into the new box.

    Install the BBC's on your Sat inputs. You will need them next year for your Ka band (B Band) signals)

    Yes. D* has activated the old box with a particular card. A different card or box requries a different activation. I suggest keeping the old box set up until you are confident in using the HR-20.

    -Craig
     

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