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HD Upgrade with MRV option

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Doug Brott, Mar 17, 2010.

  1. dconfer

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    Thank you for the reply. I have not been in a commitment for almost 1.5 years now. I was hoping I could do this. I will pay the fee to swap out both my HR20-700 for HR24 when I can get the upgrade to deca. I want to add an H24 also. Even will get the SWM when they do it. Right now I am still on the 2 lines per reciever. So the 99 fee to upgrade will be worth it to me for deca and swm. No BBC plus no deca dongles cant wait.
     
  2. veryoldschool

    veryoldschool Lifetime Achiever Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    Try this: http://hr20.dbstalk.com/docs/MRV First Look.pdf
     
  3. Rob Dawn

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    I just want to make sure I understand this correctly:

    1) I can use my existing HR20-700 for MRV.
    2) I will have to pay $99 to upgrade to a SWiM8 multiswitch and all the DECA's that I will need (I'll just be connecting 2 HRXs).
    3) I will probably have to pay $199 to upgrade my R15 to an HR24.

    Thanks!!
     
  4. LameLefty

    LameLefty I used to be a rocket scientist

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    1. Yes.
    2. Yes.
    3. Yes.

    :)
     
  5. veryoldschool

    veryoldschool Lifetime Achiever Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    You might be able to leverage the R15 upgrade a bit depending on your status, but you've kind of "got it", except for the SWM8, which may end up being a SWMLNB/dish..
     
  6. leww37334

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    Hmmmmm, loss of the BBC's itself may be a good reason to switch to swm/deca.
     
  7. LameLefty

    LameLefty I used to be a rocket scientist

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    You can switch to SWiM without DECA, as I'm sure you realize. You'll get about 2 - 3 points higher on your signal strengths, a tiny bit better rain fade resistance, and NEVER get a 771 error when changing channels rapidly.
     
  8. joelkamp

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    It sounds like even with the HR-24 I will have to an external DECA/Ethernet bridge to support VOD. If I don't want to support VOD over the network can the external DECA/Ethernet bridge be deleted?

    I would have hoped that this functionality would have been built into the HR-24 and Ethernet would just be plugged into the back of the HR-24, seems like a strange design decision to me. Am I missing something here?
     
  9. veryoldschool

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    The 24s have it built in. Connecting to your home network is where another DECA adapter is needed.
    Using the 24 as the bridge isn't an option, but then don't know why it should be since my network isn't anywhere near my DVRs.
     
  10. matt

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    Same reason you don't plug your HR2x receiver into your modem then your computer network into the second port of the HR2x.
     
  11. THX

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    Maybe I'm missing something but why are they offering a HR24 with a non-DVR H24 with this upgrade for new virgin MRV installs?
     
  12. veryoldschool

    veryoldschool Lifetime Achiever Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    Because the H24 can view recording from the HR24, [and kind of the main point of MRV].
     
  13. joelkamp

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    I plan to upgrade all receivers to 24 models so all would have built in DECA for MRV, the only reason I can see to be connected to my home network/internet is for VOD, correct?

    Since many of us have already run home networks to our media centers to support current Directv boxes and other components it seems like it would have been nice to offer the option of both internal and external bridges to the DECA network. I don't really want to add the external DECA box to my Media center as it is a very open concept and last I saw the DECA box is white (all my components including TV stand are glossy black). Anyhow I am sure I will be able to figure out a way to do it, but is going to mean rearranging a bunch of cables.

    Also can two HR24s be networked together via DECA and be controlled with one master DVR scheduler?
     
  14. Doug Brott

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    The DECA bridge can sit in a closet somewhere. I just needs power, a connection to your SWiM lines and a connection to your home network. Once that is set up, you won't have to touch it again most likely.

    Some of the other services available with a broadband connection:
    • Video on Demand
    • TV Apps
    • MediaShare
    • Network upload of PPV information, etc.

    There is no collaborative scheduling. In fact, you cannot set a recording on a remote HR24 from another HR24. You can set a recording from an H24 on an HR24.

    If you just want MRV, you do not need a broadband connection. All of the receivers/DVRs will see each other just fine.
     
  15. bobnielsen

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    The DECA can be located wherever you wish, as long as you have both coax and ethernet available.

    Right now the H24 can do remote scheduling on DVRs and hopefully the ability to do that with another DVR will be coming soon.
     
  16. leww37334

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    lame lefty, thanks for the good info (as always !), but the best price I saw for the SWM switch was $99 on solid signal, looks like Directv might give me the switch and two deca dongles for $99. So I am kinda searching for the best deal (retired engineer with expensive hobbies :lol:)
     
  17. lugnutathome

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    Since I'm in the Portland market I called today on the MRV conversion. I asked if it was 8 receivers or TUNERS? The rep did not know and checked. The answer came back as an SWM LNB conversion for up to 8 tuners. Since I'm floating 12 tuners and hoping to raise that to 14, I thanked them and left the call.

    So, marketing, and support needs to know what they are selling and the average consumer doesn't know what they are really buying. Worse when the consumer does know they have no power to properly direct the support team.

    This is just one reason why I've ZERO confidence in their tech support to convert my infrastructure. ARGH!

    Don "ignerunse is blis" Bolton
     
  18. LameLefty

    LameLefty I used to be a rocket scientist

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    Give it time. These are first-level CSR's working off a BRAND NEW script. Most of them have no idea how this stuff works or even knew it existed until their most recent briefing or whatever on the script changes. By the time the SWiM16 hits the real world and these folks have a lot more experience with the ins and outs of not only the hardware involved, but the PROCESS on their end, it'll be easier for people with outlier configurations like yours.
     
  19. Noresults

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    I have a swm with an HR-21 and a D-12-100 do I need a DECA?

    And what is a DECA? My HR-21 is plugged into my home network why would I need anything else other than to upgrade my D-12?

    Thanks
     
  20. David Ortiz

    David Ortiz Save the Clock Tower!!

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    I called DIRECTV to try to order an HR24, and I thought I had been successful but when the installers showed up this morning they had a different model, not an HR24. I called again and was told that they still couldn't specify the model they were ordering. The best bet was to try locally. I was given a list of stores and the last one had them. So if you're in Fresno and just have to have one, you can get an HR24 at Central Valley Entertainment Systems.
     

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