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Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Chris2, Sep 21, 2005.

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  1. Chris2

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    What is it and why would you want HDLite?
     
  2. Bill Johnson

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    Assuming this is not a satirical or rhetorical question, HDLite is down rezzed and/or bit starved high definition telecasts lacking that WOW factor and POP in picture quality that we HD fanatics want to see in HD telecasts. (Some say that DirecTV is especially notorious in transmitting HDLite, but true HD fanatics don't discriminate among guilty providers.)

    You would want it if you aren't a true HD fanatic and you value quantity over quality
     
  3. Chris2

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    I don't see what the point of it is that's like watching HD on a black and white TV. How do you make sure you don't get it? Or is all directvs HD like that?
     
  4. durl

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    I'd still rather watch HDLite than standard definition. Bandwidth should increase after the conversion to MPEG-4.
     
  5. n8dagr8

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    The point of it is that D* or any other provider can cram more TV into smaller spaces (locals guys do it when they broadcast a bunch of channels over the same frequency - multicasting).

    You really can't make sure they don't do it. Well, I guess you could take over news corp. and then you might have a say. The only thing I can think of is call in and complain...then wait for MPEG4 conversion. Man, if MPEG4 doesn't fix it there will be a lot of unhappy campers.

    Pretty much all D* HD is "HD Lite". I understand they have bumped up some of the channels but I'm pretty sure they compress the living day lights out of most of them.



    Oh, and what Durl said - 100%!!
     
  6. Chris2

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    Why do they bother to have HD then when it's not really true HD? The picture might be a little better but it's not the way it was ment to be seen! I woudn't pay for that crap.
     
  7. LtMunst

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    E* has true HD. :)
     
  8. n8dagr8

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    I would guess that it has something to do with people wanting more HD but there not being enough satellite to put those channels on. When the new MPEG4 stuff starts coming out that should take care of the problem and there should be plenty of room to grow.

    I can't say what dish has. I don't read the threads or own any dish equipment. I will ask though, what does dish have planned for the future? More whining before congress about having to provide locals or are they actually going to man up and start doing something?
     
  9. Chris2

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    They should tell people they are doing it you are paying for HD not something less.

    btw who is E*
     
  10. n8dagr8

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    E* = echostar = dish network

    D* = directv
     
  11. deraz

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    Chris2 - just my two cents -

    Why don't you judge with your own eyes. Find a friend or coworker who currently has D*'s HD. Have them switch back and forth on a channel that is being broadcast in both SD and HD. It is not like watching on a black and white TV. The improvement is absolutely stunning. If you have the ability to receive HD through cable, you might want to compare that also.
     
  12. tds4182

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    That's not all they have.

    Why don't you ask the 921 owners how much they like E*'s HD offerings (when they can get their machines to work)?
     
  13. LtMunst

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    Don't care about the 921. My 942 can record 3, yes 3, HD programs at one time while I watch a 4th already recorded. :) All this in True beautiful High Definition. Sure, I have read the 921 horror stories, but that is irrelevant to new subscribers who can get truly stable and state of the art receivers with quality HD to match.
     
  14. Curtis0620

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    But only 1 OTA channel. With D* you can record 2 OTA channels.
     
  15. LtMunst

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    You need that 2nd OTA tuner with D* because you sure won't get quality HD from the SATS.
     
  16. Curtis0620

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    No. Because just maybe I watch more network programming. I think most others do too. This has nothing to do with HD quality on the SATS.
     
  17. LtMunst

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    Ok, I'll give you that one. Yes, it would be nice if the 942 had a 2nd OTA tuner. I made the mistake of taping the Apprentice last night OTA and CSI from the SAT. Turns out the Donald didn't master his show in Widescreen HD so I wasted the OTA tuner on the wrong program. Still, my original point that E* has much better HD than D* is still valid. Maybe that will change when the MPEG4 business gets worked out.
     
  18. Curtis0620

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    Agreed.
     
  19. stevendsnyder

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    There was a link in another thread a few months back that gave the bit ratings for the various HD stations on D* and E*. I don't have that link any more, but maybe someone else still has it.
     
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