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Discussion in 'DISH™ High Definition Discussion' started by 30middle, Jan 17, 2008.
WRONG AGAIN. The ViP 722 comes with and HDMI cable....do your research before calling me out. :lol:
The box my 722 came in only had the composite cables in it. I can't speak for what other installers may do, or what someone else's box came with, but mine had no HDMI or component cables, and the installer had no intention of providing them. He did not even tell me they were needed.
My installer said that HDMI cable was an added expense that I would have to buy at a retailer. He did not let me see what was in the VIP 722 BOX as he carried it with him leaving my old 625 box behind. Now I wonder if it indeed had an HDMI cable and he was planning on using it somewhere else?
The box my 722 came in besides the receiver had a phone cord, manual, 2 remotes, 2 channel charts, component cables and HDMI to DVI and DVI to HDMI cables.
Like I said in my other post the installer told me HDMI is the way they are being told to connect HD receivers.
If it helps my installer was direct from Dish and not a sub contractor or retailer.
Jeez, people! Relax. Like I said in post #6, there's no definitive answer.
It may be best just to go the monoprice.com route and get an HDMI cable. If the receiver box and/or the installer comes with one, than you've got an ectra for your DVD player or a friend or whatever. There only around $6.
The correct response to the above post is no dish does not include any HDMI or component cables in any hd or hddvr reciever it must either be bought retail or a tech will supply one for a low cost to the customer directv supplies them in there hd and hddvr recievers but they are the cheapest made cables available so you did not get any hdmi to dvi cable hdmi or component cables with your VIP 722......
I have installed dozens and dozens of 622/722 receivers and have never seen any kind of HD cable or adaptor in the box. The company I work for does supply componet cables (free to customer) which seem quite 'meaty' compared to the inbox Directv cables I have seen.
As far as other posters who swear theirs came in their box... I can't explain it. Maybe some did at first, but none of mine did.
Just to chime in: my Vip222 came with component cables AND a s-video cable. I had to return the original box and the replacement ViP ALSO came with another set of component cables and another s-video cable. I kept the extra cables with not a word from Dish. I returned the original remote (should have kept it too) as the new one had a remote included as well.
Definitely soon! But maybe not in time for the install. I think there will be better sales starting the week before the superbowl so I'm just watching and waiting for now.
wreck, I wonder if you getting the Composite cables (yello, red, white) confused with Componet cables (red,blue green). Pretty much every receiver I have installed has come with Composite and S-video cable.
I had an HDMI cable that I purchased for the install, when I met him at the truck he said, "Do you have the hi def cables?" I said, "I thought you guys had them." so he grabbed a pack of HDMI to DVI-DVI to HDMI that, no were not in the 722 box, but since they were provided by the installer I would say that they were included with my installation.
I guess the answer is that the tech COULD have cables, but don't count on it. And for the record, my tech wasn't a contractor.
It's certainly possible that in-house techs may be given cables to install. Contractors certainly are not, and in any case, NO HD cables come in the box.
So SORRY, YOU wrong again.
I've opened dozens and dozens factory sealed boxes of Dish HD receivers. NO HDMI, NO Component.
Its little of the subject but I have question about HDMI cables.....is there big difference in quality (picture) if I buy HDMI cable thats gold plated or not?
I see people are recommending websites like bluejeanscable.com and monoprice.com who are selling HDMI cables for around $21, but I can also get them from eBay for $2-5 so should I be concern with quality if I pay that less?
There is a little difference between component and HDMI but I wouldn't get too excited switching. It's not nearly as big a wow factor as going from simple composite (red white yellow) to component (red blue green)
But one thing I'd definitely do, is ignore the hype about buying expensive cables. It's a total waste AFAIC and you're simply waisiting money. People still think in the line of monster cable is great etc etc. But that's analog. HDMI is digital. There is no variance in recieving quality. They work, or they don't. period.
I'd buy the cheapest HDMI cable you can find that fits the length. I'm sure other opinion differs due to manufacturer quality, but you will not get any better picture with a $150.00 HDMI cable than you with one from Wal-Mart for $35.00.
The main things I see are this:
when swtiching to HDMI remember that you have no control via the TV on special screen stuff. So if your TV has all these great features for zooming, smart pixel etc, they will be disabled. Once you use HDMI ALL settings come from the box. The TV has no control anymore. You'll notice that the options are no longer there once you switch. So you're limited to the settings the box has. which are minimal.
The other thing, which is a positive, is that it gets rid of a LOT of clutter which is really the onlyl reason I'd go from component to HDMI.
IIRC my HDMI cable was under $20. Works great.
If you can hook up HDMI do so. You can also hook up the component outputs if you need them for special features. Digital Rights Management is on the horizon ... IF programmers decide to protect their programming from being output via component in full resolution you will want that HDMI output!
As the original topic starter i will post my experience as i had my system installed today. The box itself unopened does not have HDMI cables BUT he had HDMI to DVI to HDMI (Why they cant just go straighthrough i dont know) cables and they were free. The box also had RCA Composite, S-video cables but of course i used the adapter as you have to use it to achieve "HD" from these 3 options. They also replaced the entire wire from Dish to reciever and swaped out LNBs. SO at least for me YES they provided free cables to hook up but they were also very good people and installers and were not as bad as some described here and on other satellite forums. So i am sure there are some "Cost-efficient" installers that may not want to provide you with the proper cables necessary.
I don't understand why there is such inconsistency, or maybe it's non-compliance, on this. It's supposed to come with a cable but, as we've seen thread after thread, often doesn't. The TechPortal shows HD receivers do come with a cable. I checked the newest receiver, the not-yet-released ViP612, to make sure that is still the case. Here's what I find (scroll to the bottom, expand the standalone list):
Appropriate HD cable for install
(1) HDMI HDTV Digital Audio/Video to DVI Cable (8 ft) OR
(1) DVI to HDMI HDTV Digital Audio/Video Adapter OR
(1) Y/Pb/Pr 3-Wire Cable (red, blue, green) (6 ft)
No I'm absolutely certain they are component. (YPbPr ? type)
Just received a new 722.
Out of the box: