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Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by s0121, Jan 26, 2005.
The company being discussed is Thomson (no "p").
FWIW, GE purchased RCA sometime in the 90's (I don't recall when), then turned around and sold their entire home entertainment product line to Thomson of France. At about the same time, they sold their small appliance line to Black & Decker.
Thomson's budget line of TV's, radios and the like carry the GE name. Their mainstream products are RCA. As previously pointed out, their "quality" line is now Scenium. I don't know whether they still market products under the Proscan name.
The 921/HDTV promo was another good idea gone bad. I'm sure that Echostar went fishing for an HD monitor at a good price and Thomson came in as the low bidder. As we all know, buying from the lowest bidder doesn't mean you get qood quality. .
On the other hand, I have a GE 26" TV console that I got in '89 that's still working just fine. It's a pre-merger product. I've also had pre-merger RCA products that lasted a long time.
Today, I wouldn't recommend RCA/GE TV's.
Sorry for the miss spelling folks... But I get the IDEA, the 40" HDTV (Dish Network 40-300) which is a Rear Projection ??? Thomson - RCA - GE " JUNK (IMO). cost me about $699.00.
The Set has been removed from the Dish Network Site, the 34" is still being offered. Currently we are in the 2nd Month of working with "CSR from Dish Network", to get it REPLACED. It was "Repaired once" ???, worked for 5 days... now at different times when it auto shuts off it goes BANG.. quite loud... only 8 times yesterday evening..28th.. only went BANG 2 times... enough to scare the wife.. (Did you hear that?).. Tonyp56 where in OK, do you live... I live in Coldwater, Ks.. closest Authorized Thomson-RCA-GE that would even consider looking at the system is in Hayes... 125 miles north... closer places, (Alva, OK. Woodard, OK. said "NO, We did not sell, we will not service."). Yes, 699.00 is not so bad for a RearProjection HDTV, but when I ask Dish Network who was making the set for them.
They Lied to me, by not telling me it was being made by Thomson - RCA - GE. Being a Retired Electronic Business Owner. I knew better than to buy a "Thomson-RCA-GE" product.
Update for those who might find be waiting to see what "Thomson" is doing on "replacment or repairing" the last work from Echostar CSR is "they should
authorize a replacement" Problem is they can not find "A NEW 40" HDTV 40-300
It seems they NO LONGER MAKE THIS MODEL... huuuuump
Both of my Sony TV's were made in Mt.Pleasant. One is a 35" that is 6 years old and the other is 60" that is 6 months old, both preform flawlessly.
The Sony plant in Mt Pleasant is an old Volkswagen factory. Friends tell me they treat the employees like trash.
The current issue of Consumer Reports (March, 2005) has a 12 page report on big screen and conventional TVs. In ALL categories the RCA TVs had the highest repair rate of all the brands tested.
I had to take my TV (40 miles away but I was not within his service area)to Tulsa Oklahoma to All PRO Audio & TV Service, which is a RCA Authorized Service Center. (though the owner is getting tired of the slow responses from RCA on service issues, he told me of an one such time that it took RCA two months to authorized an out of area pick up and re-delivery after the TV was fixed) But if you could get it there, I'd recommend him, he did a good job and he was fast. Beyond that, see if Dish can get you a trade for your TV and a RCA D40W20 or similiar 40" model. Then after a year if you have problems, ditch RCA and go out and buy something better.
Really great, this Thomson and Echostar Company(partnership)... I bought the system thru Echostar, paying upfront...reason for the cheaper cost- I was told. Now Echostar claims they have to get permission from Thomson to do anything with the HDTV...even when asking for a Refund. Echostar says "We are trying to get permission" or "We should have permission from Thomson". My suggestion is "make sure you pay Echostar on a monthly basis...never pay any of these companies on (autopay). & if they are associated with Thomson-RCA-GE in any manner STAY AWAY. When I was a little boy "made in china or made in japan = junk.. today it seems "Made in U.S.A. or made in Mexico = junk".. my next HDTV will be some thing like SONY- Hatashi-Mitsubishi-JVC
I bought a 52" Toshiba Rear Projection DLP HDTV from Best Buy. I'va had it a week, and it needs to be fixed. When I shut it off, it won't turn back on. I have to unplug it, plug it back in and then it will turn on. It's a real pain in the butt.
Yes, I'm sure that is a pain... We also have that problems along with the others. By haps, can you test your voltage at the plug in for that set... to see if it is slightly above the 121 to 123 volts or is it a tad bit lower. The voltage where I'm at is actually 123...Thanks
Well to add to this saga DISH is now coming out with a line of LCD HDTVs made by Mitsui (from china) not to be confused with Mitsubishi. More CRAP without warranty support from DISH "Notwerk".
For what it's worth... Sony does indeed have a good presence in the U.S.
Just before my father passed away, he was working part time for a small injection mold company in So. Cal. They made molds for Sony(Rancho Bernardo, Ca.) that would be shipped to 3-4 other companies in the states, who in turn manufactured the styro-foam used by Sony in packaging their products. While they are not necessarily an "American" company, I can assure you that many jobs are created due to their American presence. Anywhere from 40-60 percent of that injection mold company's business each year was directly related to Sony. They were able to grow from 5-7 employees in the first year, to approx. 20 fulltime employees four years later, and they were looking for a larger building in anticipation of future growth.
Kinda of ironic too... I am currently living near a Toyota plant in Georgetown, Kentucky that employs a huge number of Americans. In turn they spend their paychecks in many of the locally owned businesses, ...you get the point.
Nowadays, you need to look beyond the name on the product if your intent is to "buy American".
Update, on the RCA _(MIM - junk). went & dug out my small digital VOM.. tesed the voltage in the wall plug where the HD40" was being used. vt = 125.4---huuummmjust a TAD hi, tested a different plug on vts was 122.8 (w/i normal range) now using the HD40 in the 122.8vt wall plug... 11:30 to 11:30 yesterday-No problems... running today since 11:00AM
no problem. will keep you updated on progress.... Made in No. America is what I prefer to
help with keeping American jobs up... If the product is manufactured at least partly that is OK. yes i use Sony, Mitsubishi, Akai, etc etc... I do try an stay away from RCA, GE, (MIM) for
I am a RETIRED Electronic Tech. (62) so when my own business had a major problem with items manufactured by certain comp. we(I) stayed away from them...cancer retired me in 1999 where as I sold my Electronics Company...PS: folks I live in a small sw kansas town where the voltage does fluctuate more than larger citys....pop: 892