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Help me move away from our DirecTivo setup and into the 21st century

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Connected Home' started by tonydi, Jul 10, 2010.

  1. eric_n_dfw

    eric_n_dfw Cool Member

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    I too am looking at switching from Tivo to DTV with an HR24 + H24 setup, thanks to all here for the great info. Has added a lot for me to think about.

    (My reasons are more the frustration with Time Warner Cable though)
     
  2. Stuart Sweet

    Stuart Sweet The Shadow Knows!

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    :welcome_s both of you to DBSTalk!
     
  3. DrummerBoy523

    DrummerBoy523 Godfather

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    MRV is pretty nice. You must have all HD boxes, but you can see any and all DVRs throughout your entire house from any box.

    Nope.

    DTV has a skip and a slip. You can press a button and it will skip/slip 30 seconds. You can set it up so you see the video during the skip/slip or you can set it up to just jump 30 seconds.

    They've always been able to do this, yes.

    The software is starting to mature. We've been pretty happy with them for the past couple of years as they have really improved from their first year.

    The DVR will often ask you if you want to add an extension - or you can set it up automatically. I think the largest is 3 hrs?

    Two 90 minute buffers that allow you to switch back/forth. It is a feature called "double play"

    see #7 above

    Just call DTV and tell them how many TVs you have and that you want MRV and they will take care of it for you. The ICK gets you internet connection on the DECA cloud which allows for On Demand on any of your DVRs and they don't have to have an individual Ethernet connection run to them.

    If you don't have a commitment, then you can play the CSR roulette or you can call retention and see if they will match Dish Network's current deal of the month - or cable's etc. I was not on commitment and have been a D* customer since the beginning of time. I called and politely asked them if they could match Dish and they gave me the MRV, install, and all upgrades for $49.

    If you replace all your boxes with HD boxes in a SWM system with the MRV, then you wont need ethernet to the boxes anylonger (as long as you have the ICK).
     
  4. eric_n_dfw

    eric_n_dfw Cool Member

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    I noticed one of the online install quotes listed a $29 installer fee for MRV. If I get a pair of HR24's or and HR24 + H24, and I already have Cat5e Gigabit Ethernet live at both locations, would they really need to charge that?

    Also all of the quotes I see also want to charge a fee for the OnDemand install - again, if I have the ethernet in place, isn't just a matter of it being plugged in?
     
  5. sigma1914

    sigma1914 Well-Known Member DBSTalk Club

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    With Hx24s you don't need to use ethernet, the internal DECA handles MRV. You'd just need an "Internet Connection Kit," which is a coax from your splitter to a DECA module with it's own power inserter. This will "cloud" your receivers into your network for On Demand.
     
  6. eric_n_dfw

    eric_n_dfw Cool Member

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    Forgive me if this is answered in another thread, but what about Wishlists, I've gotten mixed answers over on TCF for the following question. Currently, I have a Tivo wishlist that records any "Sports:Basketball" category show that is in HD and has "Phoenix" or "Suns" in the keywords or title. The games just show up in my "Now Playing" list. Can the HR2x do this?
     
  7. sigma1914

    sigma1914 Well-Known Member DBSTalk Club

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    Yes...with boolean auto records.
     
  8. eric_n_dfw

    eric_n_dfw Cool Member

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    Awesome. Thanks.
     
  9. eric_n_dfw

    eric_n_dfw Cool Member

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    I briefly had the craptacular UVerse DVR about 2.5 years ago and one of it's most annoying flaws was the lack of the automatic rewinding Tivo does when you hit play after fast-forwarding at either of the faster speeds.

    I've heard that, unlike UVerse, most DVR's do pop back a few seconds after ff'ing like Tivo does. Is that true of the HR24 too?

    (PS: It's possible UVerse has added that since I last tried it)
     
  10. Stuart Sweet

    Stuart Sweet The Shadow Knows!

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    Yes, all the HR series DVRs have the autocorrection feature.
     
  11. eric_n_dfw

    eric_n_dfw Cool Member

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    Cool. Edging closer and closer back to DTV. ;)

    Now I just need to decide if I want 2 HR24's for $99 or the HR24 + H24 deal for $0.

    I'm going to want at least one AM21 tuner, maybe 2. Has anyone had luck getting those at reduced price?
     
  12. chscott

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    DTV subscriber since 1998 and I have had DirecTivos since the first units hit the market. My 8 year old TV recently died so I decided to upgrade my TV and DTV service. Got the MVR setup w/ HR24.

    (If I post something incorrect because my lack of knowlege, please correct me.)

    HD and HR24 Like list:

    1. Hi-DEF (Wow! on the new Sony 55" LCD)
    2. On demand! (Need more HD on demand though as SD On Demand looks like crap on my TV)
    3. Easy favorites aka "Quicktune" (One button launch - Nice! )
    4. Media Share is nice, but I need to research why my photos on my Windows Home Server do not display in folders even when I select "Folders".
    5. Multi Room Viewing is a plus (no more managing 2 TiVos)
    6. "Cast and Crew" feature is nice


    Dislike list:

    1. DVR response slows occasionally requiring a reboot
    2. Guide - No list view (This is probably my #1 dislike)
    3. Remote - Even after 2 weeks I am having a hard time getting used to it. The DVR controls are scattered in a sea of buttons.
    4. I have had the background's that are used on the VOD pages get stuck behind the regular guide menu making the Info drop down hard or impossible to read (hard to explain), but a reboot fixes the issue.
    5. I for one do miss the TiVo suggestions.
    6. "Parental" feature. Someone at DTV thought it would be a good idea to instruct everyone else in parental skills. :rolleyes:

    I know someone called TiVo's interface "cartoon network guide". I absolutely disagree. I think the biggest difference is that the TiVo interface is more intuitive. I absoutely miss it.

    I was holding out for the new DirecTiVo box but who knows if that will ever happen. I am in no way unhappy with the HR24 (I am sure DTV will fix the minor bugs).

    Even though I miss the TiVo interface I have no regrets. I think the positives outway the negative issues.
     
  13. DogLover

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    Just in case you weren't aware...
    If you are in the guide, you can move the cursor to the channel number and press the info key. This will give you a list of all the programs on that channel by time. It's not as nice as the Tivo List View, but it may help you make do.
     
  14. chscott

    chscott Cool Member

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    Thanks for the tip! Your correct, not as nice as the TiVo list, but it will come in handy.
     
  15. bguppies

    bguppies Cool Member

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    GREAT tip....

    Still trying to convert from a decade of DirecTivos, to my 2 new HR24's.

    Bill
     
  16. mrfantasy

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    I just did this on Friday. Replaced two dying DirecTiVos that were hacked and networked with MRV. I'm watching some of the shows I didn't get to before the swap over Media Share from torrented files (I'm having a hard time feeling this is immoral.) I've also configured Media Share to access my music server files (400GB of FLAC all ripped from CD) from my Linux box now running mediatomb.

    I have all 24s--2 HRs and an H24 receiver. So far we put the receiver in the bedroom because it's completely silent, but we watch a lot of TV there so we may end up putting an HR in there instead. Then again, you can set up recordings to either DVR from it, which you can't do from the HRs themselves (although I can't help but think that'd be easy to change.)

    The menus will take some time figuring out, I have to slide the device switch control to turn off our ancient Toshiba TV (I assume it doesn't have discrete on/off codes), and since I only have 4:3 TVs (one is HD) there's lots of letterboxing, but I knew that going in, and the picture quality is still much better than the old SD receivers, even on an SD TV set (and I like that the recievers always output SD on the S-video and composite outputs even on the HD channels).

    Having access to On Demand, remote scheduling, and other services is a huge improvement. I just wish the Android app weren't deeply broken.

    I don't really miss any TiVo features we didn't have, since our TiVos were so old that's not surprising.
     
  17. chscott

    chscott Cool Member

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    Used to work on my EVO prior to 2.2 and now does not. :(
     
  18. eric_n_dfw

    eric_n_dfw Cool Member

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    Well, I ordered 2 HR24's and they were supposed to be installed yesterday (Monday) but the guy arrived with HR22's so I declined them. He said they should be getting more HR24's today or tomorrow and rescheduled me for Thursday morning.

    One concern I have, though, is around the $29/month "rebate" - they told me to register online for it before install in order to get it applied on my first bill, but I've been unable to do so. Every time I try, the web site reports that I'm not eligible. I've called and Twitter'ed and have been repeatedly told that a ticket has been opened and escalated but no ETA on when my account will be fixed. I have a sneaking feeling I'll be waiting 6-8 weeks for that rebate to be applied. :rolleyes:
     
  19. eric_n_dfw

    eric_n_dfw Cool Member

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    Well, I have my system all up and am pretty happy with it (full info about my install over on TivoCommunity forum: http://tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=8089573#post8089573 )

    The service seems really nice, but I am having a heck of a time with the billing department. I've gotten most of my issues fixed by them, but they keep telling me that I don't qualify for the friend referral discount and are giving me different excuses. First email said I didn't register for it when I ordered, even though I did. Second response is trying to say it's not available along with my Costco rebate - but the CSR took the info and told me I was eligible.
     
  20. jake14mw

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    This was a good thread. I also have DirecTivos currently, along with one HR20 that is in the basement on a projector that I don't watch much TV on. I can't get used to the D* remote and interface, but I also want to join the 21st century! Most of the things that I like about Tivo are now in the the D* DVRs, and of course there are many additional features not available in DTivos. It will also be nice not having to wait three minutes to re-prioritize a season pass! The two main gripes I have with the HR20 vs DTivo both have to do with watching TV in 1x FF mode. The first is that it has a ridiculously long jump back in 1x. It's really unusable, and I can't believe it hasn't been fixed. The other is that the playback is not very watchable in 1x either. In the DTivo, the playback is fairly smooth. In the HR20, it's very choppy to the point where you really can't see what is happening. Is that fixable, or is it just part of the mpeg-4 technology? I use 1x FF a lot when watching time shifted sports, for example in basketball during free throws, or when a guard is walking the ball up the court.

    These are annoyances, but I look forward to all the other great features, I just hope my family will be able to get used to the interface difference.
     

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