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HMC30 details from CES

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Citivas, Jan 8, 2011.

  1. Doug Brott

    Doug Brott Lifetime Achiever DBSTalk Club

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    None of this is available yet .. It's all items that were previewed at the Consumer Electronics Show in Vegas earlier this year.
     
  2. Citivas

    Citivas Godfather

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    As Doug notes, the HR34 is not available yet. No exact ETA (unless I missed the anouncement). So it is not an immediate solution for you.

    That said, with Whole Home Viewing you can almost accomplish the same thing. You can have 1 DVR box and get DirectV to give you a basic STB (non-DVR) for the other TV. Then you will still be able to access the DVR from the TV with the STB, and watch whatever recorded shows you want while still retaining the ability to watch or record other programming at the same time on the TV connected to the DVR. And you can do this with more than 2 TV's as well.
     
  3. spartanstew

    spartanstew Dry as a bone

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    false.
     
  4. harsh

    harsh Beware the Attack Basset

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    I think maybe the point is to avoid having an STB at every TV as only the HMC would theoretically be able to do. I envision that an outdoor installation would be significantly simplified and certainly more secure.
     
  5. LameLefty

    LameLefty I used to be a rocket scientist

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    "Simplied" sure. But "more secure"? Really?

    So you have only one big thing to lock down (the TV) instead of two (the aforementioned TV plus a small H24 or H25-sized STB). Since you have to "secure" the TV anyway, "securing" the adjacent STB really isn't any more effort.

    Of course, if you're installing outdoor TV's in any location where "security" is a paramount concern, you probably are already making more efforts toward that end in other ways anyway.
     
  6. Citivas

    Citivas Godfather

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    Yep. But as you note, that benefit is mostly "theoretical" since only a few models of 2011 Samsung LCD Tv's will accomplish that goal. With everything else you'll still need a box.
     
  7. aces99

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    I talked to a tech from DTV yesterday and he told me that in order to use the whole home DVR on each TV you have to have a separate receiver plugged into a phone line for each TV. Did I missunderstand what the said?
     
  8. aces99

    aces99 Cool Member

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    What I am trying to avoid is having to get a second receiver from DTV. What I want to do is get DTV and only 1 receiver and have it hooked to 2 TV's at the same time like I do now with Dishnet. I don't want to have to get another receiver for the second TV. The DTV dual DVR that they have out now can you hook it up to a second TV using the RVU client and network or do I have to wait until the HR34 comes out?
     
  9. Citivas

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    Either the tech was an not very bright or you misunderstood him. You don't have to have ANY of the reecivers hooked into a phone line. I only have one of mine still plugged into a phone line and that's just so I can see the caller ID when someone calls. And I do have whole home.
     
  10. Doug Brott

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    A phone line is no longer a requirement.
     
  11. Citivas

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    None of the DTV receivers available now will send to RVU clients, only the yet to be released HR34. And that HR34 when it comes out will either still require a small RVU receiver box (thus still a second box) or that you go out and buy a new specific model Samsung TV line which arethe only announced 2011 models with a built-in RVU client.
     
  12. Doug Brott

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    Right now you'd need a second receiver, but it would have full access to the playlist on the DVR in the other room if you also purchase Whole home DVR service ($3/month). Additionally, that standalone receiver would have a full dedicated tuner for it's use so you could record two things on the DVR without affecting viewing on the standalone receiver.

    The additional receiver is $6/month extra above and beyond any other charges you may have associated with your account. To add Whole Home Service to your account you also need HD Service and DVR service.
     
  13. Laxguy

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

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    On the outside chance you'll not be wanting separate/differing programs playing simultaneously on the two sets, you can do so now with an HDMI splitter and extension, controller everything with one RF remote, one receiver that's HD and a DVR.
     
  14. aces99

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    Oh cool, thanks for the info about not having to have phone lines plugged in, thats a bonus. Thats why I like the receiver I have now that runs 2 TV's with not having to have another receiver. It would be nice if DTV had a receiver that could do the same. I will have to think of which root to go because I wanted to get away from having to have a separate receiver for each TV and the $6 per month for each additional receiver.
     
  15. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    How many smart cards the HR34 will require ?
     
  16. aces99

    aces99 Cool Member

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    The HR34 should only require 1 card because it is 1 receiver.
     
  17. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    Perhaps you don't know how receivers working ... to decode five (5!) sat streams simultaneously, add to that (how many?) recordings should be decrypted during client's requests, one card could be not enough.
     
  18. inkahauts

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    Its only outgoing where the card would come into play.. The DVRs record the raw stream from the sat. Also, I think its just simply referenced for the encryption, I don't think it actually enters into the speed of the unit in any way.
     
  19. Jeremy W

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    The card itself is a microprocessor. It has limitations as to how much processing it can do at once. I don't know if the HR34 surpasses the limitations of the current cards or not, but there is absolutely a limit.
     
  20. LameLefty

    LameLefty I used to be a rocket scientist

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    You don't know what you're talking about with regard to smart cards and how encryption works mathematically. :nono:

    And this is veering dangerously toward hacking, it's best to just leave it at this: if the HR34 has more than one access card, I'll eat my hat. :)
     

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