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Hopper 3 adding 2 Wally's

Discussion in 'Hopper System Support Forum' started by Victor C, Jan 16, 2017.

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  1. Victor C

    Victor C New Member

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    Hope someone on this site could help? Been searching for weeks.....

    Approx 6 months ago I had swapped from Directv to Dish Network. Had a Hooper 3 installed with three wireless Joeys. The dish antenna has two LNB's looking at 61.5 and 72 with one cable coming from from dish to Hooper 3. No other switches, nodes, nothing. There is an extra cable coming from the dish but it is not hooked up where it enters the house. Looks like a spare cable. No connector on it.

    Here is the question?

    I have two Wally receivers in a RV parked next to the house. I want to connect these two receivers to the existing antenna. I have talked to many many folks, no one can agree on what is needed or if it can even be done? I have a travel antenna but don't want to set it up when at home.

    I do know based on my location, the wallys must hit eastern sats for local HD's, already figured this out.

    Can I connect to the extra cable coming from dish? Or do I need some type of switch?

    Thanks in advance for your help.
     
  2. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    I would try to research if any signal coming out of the cable first ... just make F-connector and run your W on it - will see what you could do after that.
     
  3. Troch2002

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    The Wallys are not compatible with the Hybrid LNBs using a Hopper3.
    You can't hook it up to the same Dish as the Hopper 3.
    You would need a Seperate dish with a DPP EA2 LNB.
    Just like I have installed.

    The extra wire is just a Jumper for checking and peaking the dish which the tech most likely left there.

    The DP42 switch may help solve this, But its not available yet, and the specs are still not fully available and contains lots of speculation.
    Here is From the Dish depot website.

    DISH WALLY Receive with RF Remote
    Here is my setup.
    20170101_153123.jpg
     
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  4. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    wait a sec !
    did you try it by YOURSELF ?
    It's DPP LNBF first, then with Hybrid support...
     
  5. n0qcu

    n0qcu Legend/Supporter DBSTalk Gold Club

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    Makes no difference since a H3 is connected to it absolutely nothing else can be.
     
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  6. Troch2002

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    Exactly it can't do both at the same time.
     
  7. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    if you didn't test it, I'm still skeptical to bold statements like this
     
  8. Troch2002

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    You test it.
    I'm not going to Have Hopper3 issues because you don't believe the written documents or the Dish techs or Retailers.
    I'm fine Following the Guidelines that Dish has set in place for Wallys and Hopper 3s.

    You have a Number of bold statements yourself that you never ever seem to back up.

    So when you're done Trying your Wally with your Hopper 3, Let us know if your Hopper3 and five 4K joeys will support six 4 K streams.

    If you can find 6 4K streams
     
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  9. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    I'm listening ... or you bluffing ?
     
  10. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    If you guys want to argue take it to a private conversation ... we do not need the noise.
     
  11. Victor C

    Victor C New Member

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    Thanks all for the Replys. So I get it, sounds like my best option is just to get another dish. No problem.

    So for two Walley's I need a Dish Pro Plus LNBF? Correct? Is there a east and a west version? What's the .2 and .4 on the dishes. I need a east setup to get local in HD.

    Best place to purchase this?

    Thanks again,
     
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  12. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    I would try the hanging cable first ...
     
  13. Troch2002

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    You would need an Eastern arc 1000.2.
    Ebay is where I always go.
    But nothing wrong with Solid Signal, Dish Depot ,or Amazon.
    I have two 211s, 211z and a 211k.

    Good luck and have fun.
     
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  14. Troch2002

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    You do realize the H3 is powering the LNB right.
     
  15. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    do you realize each port separate/protect DC load from other(s) ?
     
  16. Troch2002

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    What you seem to not understand, is Port1 is in use by Hopper3, Port 2 becomes in active.

    If Port1 has a Hopper 1 or 2 installed, then port 2 remains active.

    The 2 ports are used when you Have 2 Hopper2s or or a SuperJoey installed.

    But when you have a Hopper 3, the 2nd remaining port becomes inactive by anything DPP.

    You can connect your Supper Buddy in 1000.2DPH, but the minute you switch it to DPP, the meter goes blank.
    Disconnect the Hopper3, and Bang the Super Buddy will work in both modes.

    There is supposed to to be a Software Update that will allow the Wally to use DPH mode, But I've yet to see any confirmation on that.

    So as of now DPP is required for Wallys .

    While the LNB is both technologies, the Hopper3 prevents you from using both technologies at the same time.

    If the Wally has been updated, then I don't see why it couldn't work.

    And lets not forget, the EA DPH only has 2 output ports.
    So how do you want him to hook up a Hopper 3 and 2 Wallys?
     
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  17. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    lets start from connecting one and see if it will works ...
     
  18. Troch2002

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    Again go ahead.
    My Super Buddy was enough proof for me.
     
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  19. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    your buddy wasn't a Wally !
     
  20. Troch2002

    Troch2002 Member

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    Again, Try it , Let us know.
     
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