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Discussion in 'TV Show Talk' started by TomCat, Sep 24, 2013.

  1. TomCat

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    Great cast, great performances.

    It moves a little slow, but that may be that in the beginning there must be a lot of procedural stuff to set the stage and tell the bones of the story. And it may turn out to be a pretty interesting story. So far, so good.

    Kudos to CBS for taking the HBO approach of 15 uninterrupted eps. We knew that was the future, and now CBS knows.
     
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    Just watched it, not bad.
     
  3. dpeters11

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    I like shows that tell a story over the episodes and seasons, as long as they don't turn into something like Prison Break. Good first episode though.
     
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    It didn't do good in the ratings compared to it's competition
     
  5. Oct 4, 2013 #5 of 19
    TomCat

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    True; it may be in trouble. It is also sort of hard to watch and there are few payoffs for doing so. Maybe a few or more of those committed 15 eps could end up committed to Saturday night, or at least Friday if something fails there, but that kind of throws a wrench into their plans to host the second half of the season with another drama in that time slot; I assume their wish was that this would hit gold and raise the rent in that time slot, and act as a good lead-in to the replacement series in January. Doesn't look like that dream can happen.
     
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    fluffybear

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    This was one of the shows (after seeing previews all summer) Mrs. Fluffybear indicated she would not be interested watching this year but we wacthed the pilot last evening and were actually quite pleased with it. Hopefully, it will survive for it's entire run in order that we can see the conclusion.
     
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    sigma1914

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    The pilot was ok, IMO, but the 2nd episode really got me hooked.
     
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    Something to look forward to.
     
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    I like it too. Don't really like the "hero" lead - the female surgeon. But I think that always happens with characters trying to suppress their native accents and sound American. They come off sounding stiff and wooden. Then I think the actor/actress is bad so I look them up in the cast info and see they are not from America. That explains it (IMO).

    But I really like Dylan McDermott, and the rest of them. The subplots are not distractions (so far), the "bad buys" with good intentions (or hearts?) are done well and they didn't kill the dog. I was outta there if they killed the dog! Just kidding, but killing animals tends to send me over the edge and bias me towards the "killer".

    The concept of the "bad guys" being way more gray than black is not new and can fail badly, but so far..... I like it.
     
  10. TomCat

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    Toni Collette is very highly regarded, but I now am wondering why. She's OK, I guess, but I would have cast someone else. I considered ep 2 a slight step down from ep 1. I think it will be touch and go for this one, regardless of NBC's 15-in-a-row commitment. I'm still in, tho.
     
  11. sigma1914

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    Well, did anyone catch the season finale?

    The cliffhanger ending was weird. Overall, the season was kinda blah after a good start.
     
  12. mrro82

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    I "watched" all the episodes this season. More like I had it on but didn't exactly pay 100% attention to it. It seemed a bit forced in places and predictable.

    Sent from the jaws of my Hammerhead!
     
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    I saw it. My bet is that it won't return next season, and I'm fine with that.
     
  14. TomCat

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    I guess I should qualify "still in", because I never watched another ep. Too dark. I am "still in" because the other 13 eps are still clogging my HDD, but I will be unclogging it very soon, so then I will be out.
     
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    I'm glad this one's over. It ran like a opened bottle of soda. Lots of fizzle at first but lost it's pizazz over time.
     
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    That's part of the problem one has with a show like this. For something that was suppose to be taking place over 2 week period they crammed a lot of different stories in which dragged the show out..
     
  17. TomCat

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    Yes, like a bottle of soda that sat opened for 15 weeks.

    I think fluf put his/her finger on it.
     
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    That is a problem I had with 24. I usually had about enough at the 18 hour mark.
     
  19. TomCat

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    I still think 24 was one of the best and most iconic series we have ever been treated to. It was also ambitious, and it really was sort of like a high-wire act, where the acrobat does something while his hands are tied behind his back. And the reason I say that is just setting something in that format handicaps you immediately and paints you into a lot of corners. It took them a couple of seasons just to figure out when to shoot so that the day and night scenes made sense.

    So it wasn't perfect. Before you know it hot, blonde daughters are being chased by cougars just to fill 24 eps. My problem with the series was the tone; it put you on the edge of your seat for an entire 60 minutes straight, for 24 episodes in a row. There was little dynamic range there, few soft and light moments to offset the constant danger and suspense. The tone was also claustrophobic and paranoid, and almost racist, as every person with a brown complexion was the enemy.

    So yes, at about 18 hours things started to have a certain sameness and a constant drone, sort of like when you look at a bright red wall for too long you eventually can't even see that its red because your whole universe has been red for so long that you have no frame of reference, nothing to compare it to. If 24 had separated the moments of suspense with calmer moments, or even moments of comic relief (which is the lesson learned in X Files and Breaking Bad) then the moments of suspense would have been all that more effective. Think Speed Metal music; loud and fast and hard is only loud and fast and hard (and entertaining) if it also has soft and slow to compare itself to.

    But, and we can't forget, it was also brilliant, and the writers and producers (not to mention genius of suspense musical scorist Sean Callery) went on to wow us with Homeland, which proves they learned from those mistakes.

    So, I am looking forward to the new 24, which has only 12 eps to fill and without the restrictions of the 24 "shot clock" that held down the original.
     

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