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How Do I Incorporate DECA-Only Receiver into Existing Ethernet Whole Home Network?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Connected Home' started by DBSNewbie, Oct 13, 2011.

  1. veryoldschool

    veryoldschool Lifetime Achiever Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    If you have enough tuners/receivers that require a SWiM-16, then it's part of the upgrade.
     
  2. David Ortiz

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    Yes. Any equipment needed to make Whole-Home DVR work is covered, including like for like receiver and DVR swaps, if they are not SWiM compatible.
     
  3. lugnutathome

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    The HR24 can be used in either an Ethernet connected OR a DECA connected manner but not both at the same time.

    The H25 can be implemented using the latest Cinema Connection Kit which supports wireless and or wired connections. Its best as it has a coax pass through whereas the old non wireless model required a splitter to connect in.

    You would need the BSF (Band stop filter) to prevent the DECA signals from being introduced to those receivers on the same splitter/SWM not using the DECA signals.

    I currently run several H25s on a single 4 way splitter with the old style CCK which sends its Ethernet out to my central switch bridging my DECA "puff cloud" to my 7 Ethernet connected DVRs with great result.

    As others have mentioned however unless you have some serious reasons why Ethernet *is* required, you might just let DirectTV set you up fully.

    Don "that H25 is a smokin little receiver" Bolton
     
  4. Beerstalker

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    Not to mention the fact, there is a chance the tech won't know how to get his HR20-100s working with DECA and he might end up getting all of them swapped out for newer HR2xs as well (don't count on this though, they don't have to do it but it seems like it happens a lot).
     
  5. azarby

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    Sine the H25 can't power the DECA, again depending on which one he gets, he may need a power supply.
     
  6. veryoldschool

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    These days nobody should be going the "white DECA" route [other than for a receiver], as the CCK-W is the most flexible for connecting and last I looked on DirecTV was about $30.
     
  7. DBSNewbie

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    Hi Everyone,

    So, I just hooked up the H25 using the configuration that had been suggested in the earlier posts.

    I am connected to the internet according to the network status: however, the H25 is not seeing any networked DVRs.

    As I had mentioned before, 7 HR20's are connected on the network via ethernet (on a WB616 multiswitch) & 1 HR24 (which I just activated) is connected via ethernet, as well, and is connected to a SWM-8.

    Here's how I have the H25 hooked up...

    SWM--> BSF--> WDCCK--> H25.

    If I am understanding this correctly, I have created a DECA cloud that consists only of the H25. The BSF is isolating the DECA between the WDCCK and the H25.

    It is then being bridged to the rest of the network through the ethernet connection from the WDCCK to the switch--> router.

    Is this correct?

    Any thoughts on why the H25 is not seeing the other DVRs, even though it is connected to the internet?

    Thanks,

    D


    EDIT: (UPDATE) I just reset all other DVRs in the system and the H25 now sees them.
     
  8. veryoldschool

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    SEE!!! !rolling
     
  9. DBSNewbie

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    Yeah. That was a, "DUH" moment. :lol:

    But, whenever I had hooked up a new DVR in the past, it immediately connected to all other DVRs. I guess it's different with non-DVRs. (Or maybe it was the CCK. Who knows? I guess when all else fails... Reset Everything!!!) :D

    Thanks again to everyone who helped me out. :)
     
  10. David Ortiz

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    :joy::up:
     
  11. abw2002

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    I have a Wireless DCCK on its way. I'm really interested in confirming your setup. I have wired ethernet already running on all the rest of my boxes. If I understand right, this is what you did?

    SWM--> BSF--> WDCCK--> H25.

    The part I wanted to confirm is that you have the WDCCK then connected via ethernet cable to switch or router, right?

    The BSF would go between my SWM 2-way splitter and the WDCCK, right?

    I wish this dang H25 just had an ethernet port. LOL.

    Thanks for confirming.

    Anthony Wilson
     
  12. veryoldschool

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    While I'm not the poster, I will confirm the WDECA/CCK works fine with ethernet only. Done it several/many times. The BSF is to block the DECA from the rest of your receivers/SWiM, so your position is correct for that.
     
  13. abw2002

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    Excellent. Thanks for the response. Now I just have to wait for the w/dcck & BSF to arrive. Hate that I can't use my iPad app for this box. Driving me nuts.

    ;-D

    Thanks, again.
     
  14. mbreuker

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    This is really good information and this looks like the right place to post my question related to this very same subject.

    I have eight (8) DirecTV receivers in my house. Yes, one in just about every single room. They are:

    2 Standard:
    R16-500
    D12-300

    6 HD:
    HR22-100 (2)
    HR20-700
    HR21-100
    HR23-700
    H21-200

    These are all connected to a Zinwell 6x16 multi-switch

    Four of the five HD-DVRs have a hard-wired Ethernet connection via CAT6 cable to a gigabit router. They all see the Internet fine, see each other fine and the computer see them fine. What they can't do is share DVR content because the Whole-Home DVR (WHDVR) service is not enabled. I tried once last year to get it enabled and can't do it online so I had to call. I was told I had to upgrade one of my boxes (a standard DVR - since upgraded to an HDDVR) and get an installer to install a DECA/SWIM kit to run Ethernet over coax to all of the receivers for $200 (plus the hassle of a install). I declined.

    After reading this and other forums on the subject, I am seeing a lot of evidence of people running WHDVR over Ethernet just fine, without the DECA/SWIM setup. Many people suggested calling or e-mailing DirecTV and just tell them to enable the service anyway. So I did. And failed miserably. I was told by the CSR that they can't even turn on the service without placing the $200 installation order for the DECA/SWIM setup, which I am still not entirely sure I need. I only want to share the DVR with three of the HDDVR receivers that happen to already be connected to the network. Why all the additional crap? Does someone here have a good answer or suggestion?
     
  15. Beerstalker

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    Check out the stickied thread near the top of this page about getting MRV set up over Ethernet.
     
  16. DarkLogix

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    still reading the thread but what I would do is the following

    get a CCK-W and a BSF

    use the CCK-W in pass through and put the BSF on the to swm side of the CCK-W so that it blocks the DECA from reaching the others but strips out the networking part, this would give you an ethernet port for the h25
     
  17. DarkLogix

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    I don't know about you but I wouldn't want my DVR('s) replaced when they can use a white deca, to much recording would be lost, and he said he had 8 HR20's (though the HR20-100 has special needs the HR20-700 is simple)
     

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