1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

How does Directv update your receiver's firmware?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by rbrianj, Nov 3, 2009.

  1. Nov 3, 2009 #1 of 25
    rbrianj

    rbrianj New Member

    1
    0
    Nov 3, 2009
    Directv says on it's website that having it connected to a phone line will "receive DVR service and software upgrades", but I haven't had my receivers connected to phone lines and it seems that both have been updated. So what is the truth about how they update firmware? I have a H21/200 (f/w ver. 0x434d) and a H20/100 (f/w ver. 0x4104).
     
  2. Nov 3, 2009 #2 of 25
    hilmar2k

    hilmar2k Hall Of Fame

    5,251
    4
    Mar 18, 2007
    Done via sat, no phone line or network connection needed.
     
  3. Nov 3, 2009 #3 of 25
    Stuart Sweet

    Stuart Sweet The Shadow Knows!

    37,060
    287
    Jun 18, 2006
    If DIRECTV says that on its website, the website needs to be updated.

    New firmware comes down from the satellite to your receiver's memory, where it is checked to make sure there are no errors in transmission. It's then transferred to flash memory on the receiver. These updates can take place without a phone line.

    In fact there is no requirement for a phone line at all unless you want to place a PPV order from your receiver (and you don't have your receiver networked via ethernet.)

    Oh, by the way, :welcome_s to DBSTalk!
     
  4. Nov 3, 2009 #4 of 25
    David MacLeod

    David MacLeod New Member

    5,689
    0
    Jan 29, 2008
    weren't the R/HR-10 series the last ones that required this?
     
  5. Nov 3, 2009 #5 of 25
    cariera

    cariera Icon

    863
    1
    Oct 27, 2006
    Yes, Tivo units need to be connected to a phone line to initiate an update that is transmitted through the satellite.
     
  6. Nov 3, 2009 #6 of 25
    litzdog911

    litzdog911 Well-Known Member

    12,201
    61
    Jun 23, 2004
    Mill Creek, WA
    Can you post a link to where you saw that?
     
  7. Nov 4, 2009 #7 of 25
    RobertY

    RobertY Mentor

    32
    0
    Jul 9, 2008
    Both of my tivo`s updated never having a phone conected, a sat t60 and a hdvr2.
    I think only stand alone tivo`s need a phone to download and update.
     
  8. Nov 4, 2009 #8 of 25
    Kheldar

    Kheldar Icon

    773
    0
    Sep 5, 2004
    That would make sense since the updates wouldn't have a satellite downlink and weren't supplied by the cable companies; the phone line would be the only way to update the stand-alone TiVos.
     
  9. Nov 4, 2009 #9 of 25
    P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

    21,580
    142
    Jul 25, 2002
    W.Mdtrn Sea
    Never used for such massive amount data. Phone line is for authentification, not for FW download. One point - it would takes days and your line would be busy all the time.
     
  10. dlt4

    dlt4 Godfather

    458
    0
    Oct 4, 2006
    Florida
  11. rudeney

    rudeney Hall Of Fame

    4,266
    1
    May 28, 2007
    All downloads (software, authorization, guide data, etc.) come via the satellite streams. Other than being used as a convenience for on-screen caller ID displays, the phone line is used only for uploading data to D*. For example, the phone line is needed to upload records of PPV purchases made via the remote. Otherwise, D* would have no idea that you had ever bought them. The phone line can be used to verify, via caller ID, that all receivers on the account are in the same house. If you opt-in to sharing your viewing habit data, that is uploaded via the phone line.

    My understanding is that with a compatible receiver connected to The Internet via Ethernet, the phone line is unnecessary as uploads can be done that way.
     
  12. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

    21,580
    142
    Jul 25, 2002
    W.Mdtrn Sea
    In case of TiVo software update, there was phone authentication/initialization for start the process. No need to sidetrack my post.
     
  13. hilmar2k

    hilmar2k Hall Of Fame

    5,251
    4
    Mar 18, 2007
  14. The Merg

    The Merg 1*

    10,289
    35
    Jun 24, 2007
    Northern VA
    Yup, I needed a phone line connected to my R10 in order to receive Guide updates and software updates.

    - Merg
     
  15. Jeremy W

    Jeremy W Hall Of Fame

    13,447
    0
    Jun 19, 2006
    Not guide updates, just to kick off software updates.
     
  16. jdspencer

    jdspencer Hall Of Fame

    6,629
    12
    Nov 7, 2003
    There was a time back in the day when the TiVos did receive the software updates on the phone. Then one of those updates allowed future updates to be downloaded from the satellite. But, the phone was required to initiate the installation of the update. Since, I no longer have a TiVo based DVR, they may have eliminated that install requirement.
     
  17. The Merg

    The Merg 1*

    10,289
    35
    Jun 24, 2007
    Northern VA
    Nope. Needed it for Guide updates too. If I was disconnected long enough from my phone line I would start getting messages that I hadn't been connected and my Guide would be a lovely TBA. As soon as I connected my phone line and forced it to call my Guide would repopulate.

    - Merg
     
  18. Jeremy W

    Jeremy W Hall Of Fame

    13,447
    0
    Jun 19, 2006
    Well then I guess you had a very special R10, because mine was never connected to the phone line and definitely had guide data.
     
  19. The Merg

    The Merg 1*

    10,289
    35
    Jun 24, 2007
    Northern VA

    I will admit that it wasn't all the Guide data that showed as TBA. The first few days on the Guide would always have info, but after that it would just say TBA. As soon as I plugged in the phone line and had it dial, the Guide would start to fully populate. Might have been something else going on, but it is definitely a coincidence then.

    And I thought all Tivo owners were special... :)

    - Merg
     
  20. inkahauts

    inkahauts Well-Known Member

    21,940
    1,010
    Nov 13, 2006
    Unless it s a darn Tivo.. still need phone lines to get info for those guys.. I don;t think firmware, but daily tivo c***
     

Share This Page