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How does the HD picture quality of D* and E* actually compare?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by skatingrocker17, Mar 19, 2011.

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  1. Mar 21, 2011 #81 of 142
    levibluewa

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    Bit-rates aside, side by side comparison on 46"XBRs an extremely slight difference in HD pictures between DISH & Directv, sometimes in favor of Dtv, sometimes in favor of DISH. As another poster has stated the SD images more often than not are clearer on DISH. The determining factor in which provider to choose, in my opinion, rests with Dtv's sports offerings, including MLB network.

    HD DISH has, Directv doesn't:

    5 STAR MAX
    ACTION MAX
    AMC (AMERICAN MOVIE CLASSICS)
    BBC AMERICA
    CENTRIC
    COOKING
    DIY (DO IT YOURSELF)
    E!
    EPIX
    EPIX 2
    FASHION TV
    G4
    GALAVISION
    HBO COMEDY
    HBO FAMILY
    HBO LATINO
    HBO SIGNATURE
    HISTORY iNTERNATIONAL
    HLN (HEADLINE NEWS – CNN2)
    ID (INVESTIGATION DISCOVERY)
    INDIE MOVIES
    LIFETIME MOVIE NETWORK
    LOGO
    MAV TV
    NATGEO WILD
    NFL RED ZONE
    OWN (OPRAH WINFREY NETWORK)
    PIXL
    RETRO MOVIES
    SHORTS MOVIES
    SPORTSMAN CHANNEL
    STYLE
    TCM (TURNER CLASSIC MOVIES)
    TELEFUTURA
    TRU TV
    WORLD FISHING NETWORK

    HD DIRECTV has DISH doesn’t

    ESPU
    FOX SOCCER PLUS
    FUEL TV
    GOL TV
    MEGA TV
    MLB TV
    SHOWTIME BEYOND
    SHOWTIME EXTREME
    SHOWTIME NEXT
    SHOWTIME WOMEN
    SMITHSONIAN
    STARZ BLACK
    STARZ CINEMA
    THE MOVIE CHANNEL EXTRA

    Removed from DISH, but on DIRECTV – contract dispute
    HD feed:
    ABC FAMILY
    DISNEY
    ESPN NEWS

    DISH had, then dropped:

    SMITHSONIAN

    Directv had, then dropped:

    G4

    Errors & omissions I'm sure will be pointed out :)
     
  2. Mar 21, 2011 #82 of 142
    Hoosier205

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    If you want service from a satellite provider and the best HD picture quality...DirecTV is your only choice. If you don't care about HD picture quality, Dish Network is the provider for you.
     
  3. Mar 21, 2011 #83 of 142
    rkr0923

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    If you want HD service pick any provider. If you want to sit and count pixels, average bitrates or just not enjoy TV at all pick any provider.
     
  4. Mar 21, 2011 #84 of 142
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    What if you want the best SD quality? :D:lol:
     
  5. Mar 21, 2011 #85 of 142
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    I wish it were that simple. It gets complicated when D* doesn't have your favorite channels in HD. Then you have to start making compromises, hence the reason for this thread. But the difference is so minimal, a reasonable person would choose providers based on content. To say Dish subs don't care about HD PQ is ridiculous. By your logic I could say D* subs don't care about HD PQ simply because they don't all have Fios.
     
  6. Mar 21, 2011 #86 of 142
    veryoldschool

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    While I get your point, I don't see a fiber in my neighborhood, so it isn't an option. ;)
     
  7. Mar 21, 2011 #87 of 142
    Codeman00

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    I switched from Dish to DirecTV in December. The HD is night and day better with DirecTV than Dish (which I had for over 8 years). DishHD is very soft....DirecTV is much sharper all around.....there is really not a debate. Both were viewed on the same Panasonic plasma 3DTV. One very noticeable difference in HD is the regional sports broadcast of the NHL. There are some games that are so clear with DirecTV HD, that I might as well be at the game....jaw dropping, almost BluRay quality.

    Thank you DirecTV...keep up the good work.
     
  8. Mar 21, 2011 #88 of 142
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    I started to watch that and I guess it's buried in my UPL someplace. I did watch it, so it couldn't have been that bad.

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  9. Mar 21, 2011 #89 of 142
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    I've been wondering about the Panny plasma's ability to upscale. Spartanstew made a comment about upscaling with the TV the other day and I forgot to question him about it.

    I'm not sure I see much upscaling happening on my Panny plasmas. For instance, if I play an old 4:3 episode of L&O: SVU on my Roku, the PQ is pretty bad. On one of my Panny BD65s, it's much better, on one of my Sammy 5500s it's really good. All on the same TV. How much upscaling can a plasma do? Seems like it's a lot less than an LCD does.

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  10. Mar 21, 2011 #90 of 142
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    Which brings me back to the apparent lack of upscaling on the Panny plasmas. Or am I wrong again?

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  11. Mar 21, 2011 #91 of 142
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    This has nothing to do with plasma or LCD.
    It has to do with what scaler is doing the heavy lifting.
    If on your DirecTV receiver, you have all resolutions checked and native turned on, then the receiver is sending out the signal "as it came" from the broadcaster. Now SD won't fill your TV screen and without scaling it would be a postage stamp. This means the TV has to scale it to fit.
    You could deselect all but 1080 in the receiver and then it will scaler everything to 1080 and the TV doesn't do anything.
    Not sure what settings are in your other devices, so I can't say which is doing the scaling, but if they look better, then they must have a better scaler than the TV and you're using theirs.
     
  12. Mar 21, 2011 #92 of 142
    Rich

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    I don't care much about SD. I didn't go thru all this to watch SD. That long list of HD shows is interesting, but is trumped by one channel that D* has that Dish doesn't. Yes.

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    Ewwww!

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  14. Mar 21, 2011 #94 of 142
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    Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You would not believe the difference between an SD program on a Roku and the same program on a 5500 using the same plasma. I don't really see the plasma doing much upscaling at all.

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  15. Mar 21, 2011 #95 of 142
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    Up to the panel native resolution. It's not a question of "how much", it's rather how good.
     
  16. Mar 21, 2011 #96 of 142
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    OK, my plasmas don't seem to upscale too good....:lol:

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  17. Mar 21, 2011 #97 of 142
    Hoosier205

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    No it isn't. Dish Network HD PQ is inferior. If you want superior HD PQ from a satellite provider, DirecTV is the only option. If you want the HD channels that Dish provides (that DirecTV does not currently provide) and you do not care about HD PQ, Dish Network is the way to go. Dish Network obviously doesn't consider HD PQ to be a priority. If a consumer considers HD PQ to be a priority, they will choose DirecTV over Dish Network. The differences between the two are real and they are obvious. DirecTV is the HD leader. Dish Network is the HD-Lite leader.
     
  18. Mar 21, 2011 #98 of 142
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    ... or they think that many 'see' but few will notice ...
     
  19. Mar 21, 2011 #99 of 142
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    Perhaps real but certainly not obvious unless you have a big TV screen.
     
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    I value HD PQ very much, which is why I refuse to watch AMC, BBC, TCM, etc. in SD. What if you want the HD channels that Dish provides (that D* doesn't) and you want the best HD PQ, what do you choose? Logically, neither provider can meet both requirements. So you have to compromise or give up tv. It is possible to compromise and still "care" about HD PQ. If I didn't care about HD PQ I never would have gotten D* to begin with. I'd still have cable and an SD tv.

    We all accept the fact that D* HD PQ is best. I hate the fact that Dish starves their HD, so I really do care. But the thread is about how noticeable the difference is. So far most have said it's not very noticeable. A few say it's night and day. So "noticeable" appears to be highly subjective.
     
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