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How many more like him?

Discussion in 'The OT' started by Richard King, Sep 28, 2005.

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  1. Richard King

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  2. Danny R

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    We had one case here in Atlanta of a woman who'd just been evicted from her apartment who decided to magically become an evacuee. She was going strong and had obtained money ($1300) and a place to stay, but forgot to clue her young kid into the crime, as he mentioned attending local schools and brought and end to her schemes.

    http://www.ajc.com/news/content/metro/cobb/0905/14metkatscam.html?imw=Y
     
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    There was a similar, but not quite as extreme case here in Anchorage 2 weeks ago. A man went to the local Red Cross and told how he had lost everything in N.O. He had a drivers license showing his address as N.O. The RC gave him $1000 to help him get started over.

    One of the local TV stations did some research on him. He was from N.O., but had spent the last 2 months in jail here for some petty crime.

    RC was not aware of the jail time, but said that they would have rather errored on the side of giving help instead of withholding help from somebody that really did need it.

    What a slime bag.
     
  4. RichW

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    RC was not aware of the jail time, but said that they would have rather errored on the side of giving help instead of withholding help from somebody that really did need it.

    Yep, there are people who will take advantage of the system, any system. Look at the billions lost in Iraq. I am not a supporter of the Red Cross, but it seems to me that they had the proper attitude in this case.
     
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    I heard somewhere that some of the NO "rebuilders/refugees/evacuees/etc." in Houston had taken their $5K debit cards to the strip clubs
     
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    So you spread the hearsay without checking the facts?

    First of all the debit cards were for $2K not $5K. Secondly some of the purchases were for $1.75 beers offered by a club. So far only 3 people have been found to have made questionable purchases.

    I would hope your distaste of abuse of Iraq funds would be sevaral orders of magnitude greater because the amount is commensurately greater.
     
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    Rich, why don't you take your anti-war agenda somewhere else where other whining liberals like you actually care? :barf:
     
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    Have you seen the polls recently?
    His "anti-war" agenda is quite mainstream these days.
     
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    Because even if you are pro-war, you should be concerned about the graft involved.
     
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    So far only 3 people have been found to have made questionable purchases.

    And it shouldn't matter even if they did. Remember that the debit card system is just a different means of distribution. Those who didn't get them either got a check or had the same amount of funds direct deposited into their own personal accounts.

    Are we expected now to force every recipient of aid to turn in their bank statements and account for every purchase? The payment covers the loss. It doesn't matter if they choose to use it for something other than rebuilding afterwards, anymore than an insurance settlement requires one to always rebuild.
     
  11. Dang The Hung

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    I absolutely refuse to give donations to the Red Cross. They need a better way to restrict how those debit cards are used. I have seen on 2 speperate occassions where they were used by an "evacuee" to buy a new big screen TV and another bought about 2 dozen CD's, all at the local Circuit City. I asked the manger why are they accepting those cards on such bogus purchases and the manager replied that they were instructed by corporate to accept these cards no questions asked. Good thing Georgia doesn't allow sales tax exemption on these items purchased with these cards. That caused the free loaders to get their panties in a bunch.

    Now I know where Red Cross money is being spent and now I know not to give to the Red Cross.
     
  12. Nick

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    No, those people who express overt anti-war opinions are a small, but vocal minority. Only a fool would base his remarks on the results of instant polls. Only fools would believe that these pop polls somehow reflect the opinions of the majority of thinking Americans. Only thoughtless liberals would say and do things that give reassurance to the enemies of freedom and further endanger the lives our troops in Iraq.

    No, these extreme anti-war wingnuts are not in any way "mainstream". They are simply noisy Bush-hating, anti-American socialist pigs. The fight for democracy in Iraq is just a convenient target.

    Get a life.
     
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    That's got to be one of the most immature responses I've ever received on any board I've ever taken part in.

    What wonderful arguments you make...I'm convinced. Bush is great!
     
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    So I guess Nick is fine with the billions lost in graft in Iraq.
     
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    Apparently, all we hear are the tired old GOP talking points---If you're against the war you're giving aid and comfort to the enemy.
    ---You're a fool to listen to polls.
    and the ultimate 'I've got no arguments left to give': Get a life.
     
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    Polls don't prove what is right oe wrong. But they do give us some insight into what is or si not "mainstream".

    besides I thought that all opinions were welcome here. Is there a rule now that only conservative opinions are welcome?
     
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    Hence, "I heard somewhere..." I don't remember what channel it was but I heard a passing comment about some of these folks heading to a strip club in houston with their debit cards. Guess I'll have to TiVo it next time and put it on the web. ;)
     
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    ah, and when they come back begging for more? Upset because all they got was $2K....suing the government.......trying to find another way to take advantage of the situation.

    You should earmark a little more of your income so that they can come straight to you.
     
  19. SimpleSimon

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    Now THAT I can agree with.

    And when do we examine the corruption in our domestic programs?
     
  20. RichW

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    In the case of "entitlement spending" there is a lot of oversight. The "welfare Cadillac" anecdotes are notable in their exceptions to the norm. The biggest problem is in the "pork" that Congress itself allows to happen. Both R's and D's are guilty, even those who signed the "Contract with America".
     
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