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How to get a Genie

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Hornnumb2, Dec 3, 2012.

  1. Dec 3, 2012 #1 of 26
    Hornnumb2

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    I would like to get rid of the hr21 and hr22 in my den and replace with the Genie. Right now I am still just using my home network for sharing and still have 2 lines ran to the 5 receivers. Thanks Michael
     
  2. Dec 3, 2012 #2 of 26
    dpeters11

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    You'll need to call DirecTV and get one from them. You'll need to go to a SWM16 setup, which will be included in the install.

    It is possible to order directly from a reseller, but the SWM16 isn't cheap.
     
  3. Dec 3, 2012 #3 of 26
    spartanstew

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  4. Dec 3, 2012 #4 of 26
    Hornnumb2

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    What can I expect to pay?
     
  5. Dec 3, 2012 #5 of 26
    trh

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    The max you'd pay is $299 for the HR34 plus $50 install. You could pay as low as $0.00, but that is not typical for existing customers. But it does happen. Call.
     
  6. Dec 3, 2012 #6 of 26
    dpeters11

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    Since you are in Texas, do you have the Protection Plan?
     
  7. Dec 3, 2012 #7 of 26
    Hornnumb2

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    No protection plan.
     
  8. Dec 3, 2012 #8 of 26
    Hornnumb2

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    What is the series limit on these?
     
  9. Dec 3, 2012 #9 of 26
    dpeters11

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    The limit is 100.
     
  10. mak

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    I just got one I payed 299+45
     
  11. Hornnumb2

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    install set for tomorrow...:) Once I get my programs watched I want to do away with 2 boxes, does it really matter which 2? Is one better than the other? Thanks Michael
     
  12. dpeters11

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    The R22s and HR21 has the smaller hard drives. That's the only real difference for your situation.
     
  13. Hornnumb2

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    I want to start by saying I don't completely understand the swm system. My installer today made such a big deal that I needed to hook up 15 tuners from 5 hr's and the new hr34. Doesn't the switch with the 2 splitters allow 16 outputs? He keep talking I might have some channels go in and out...I have no clue but I don't understand what the problem might be. Thanks
     
  14. Stuart Sweet

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    The key is that the SWM-16 can have two banks of 8 tuners, not just one big pool of 16 tuners. So you have 5 HR2x DVRs. If he set it up properly, 4 DVRs are on one "SWM leg" as we call them, and one HR2x DVR and the HR34 are on the other SWM Leg. You shouldn't have a problem. If he didn't set it up right, it will have problems.
     
  15. jdspencer

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    The SWM LNB maxes out at 8 tuners. You'll need the legacy LNB (4 outputs) connected to the SWM16. Each of the two outputs on this can handle up to 8 tuners.
     
  16. Diana C

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    There several models of SWM multiswitches, but the two most commonly seen in residential installs are the SWM-8 (max of 8 tuners) and the SWM-16 (max of 16 tuners, but on two "legs" of 8 tuners each).

    I have a SWM-16 set up with a HR34, 2 HR24s, 2 HR21s and 2 H25s, for a total of 15 tuners. From the SWM-16 I have the two legs connected to one 4-way splitter each. One 4 way feeds the HR34, one HR24 and one H25 for a total of 8 tuners on that leg. The other 4-way feeds the other HR24, one HR21 and the other H25 for a total of 5 tuners. The other H21 is connected to the "legacy" feed-through ports on the SWM16 simply because we haven't gotten around to reconnecting the cables in the attic (the HR21 replaced an old SD Tivo unit). eventually, the second leg will support both HR21s, a HR24 and a H25 for total of 7 tuners on the leg, or 15 tuners in all.

    As long as you don't exceed 8 tuners per leg, you will be fine. The SWM-16 bridges DECA internally, so MRV works across all the receivers.

    My wiring diagram:
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  17. Diana C

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    You can tell if you have a SWM LNB by looking at the wires coming out of the dish itself. If there is only one, you have a SWM LNB and will need a swap to a "legacy" design with 4 wires and a SWM-16.
     
  18. Hornnumb2

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    Yes he did install a swm 16 with it feeding 2 spitters with 8 connections. I guess just only needing one cable per box is throwing me off. I guess I just find it amazing that 1 line will feed the five tuners on the HR34. So there can only be a max of 8 tuners per splitter even though there are physically only 2 lines hooked to it from one HR22 and Hr34? Thanks
     
  19. Beerstalker

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    Yes, a max of 8 tuners per output on the SWM, not matter how many splitters, boxes, etc.

    Your installer really shouldn't have done two 8 way splitters, but it seems like that is what they all tend to do. You would be better off with a 4 way splitter feeding the 4 DVRs, and a 2 way splitter feeding the HR34 and other DVR. The smaller the splitter the less loss of signal.
     
  20. Hornnumb2

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    I am calling it a splitter but it doesn't look like a normal splitter.
     

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