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Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by muzicman82, Jun 1, 2010.
I paid $99 for the box and they waived the install fee.
I would think they'd have a select of different models with different prices based on speed, hard drive space, features etc. SD, HD, and HD DVR is't much of a choice for all of the different models they have. What's the point on the newer box if they don't give you a choice for it, even if it costs extra?
I think that for the most part, the old stock will exhaust itself soon enough and almost all new installs will be 24s.
There is no reason to be fine with the HR23 and not with the HR22. The 23 is no faster (and maybe slower) than the 22. The single advantage to the HR23 is the wideband tuners eliminating the need for BBC's on non-SWM systems.
That depends... is DirecTV losing or gaining customers? :lol:
Don't disagree muzicman, for this room I didn't care if it was a 21 or a 24 (eventhough I was hoping for a 24) but was shocked at the silver 20. Now when I get a second DVR (for the Master bedroom) I will order one from Solid state.
It's just the comfort of knowing I'm getting a more current product and not being ripped off (as much). If I knew it'd be this difficult or impossible I wouldn't have tried in the first place.
Well explain my new H20
Would have thought that stock would have long been exhausted (say 2005 )
There's nothing more current about the HR23 than the HR22. In fact, given the choice, I'd take an HR20-700 (the original HR2x, circa 2006) over any HR2x other than the HR24. Just because a receiver was introduced later than another doesn't make it better (or even as good).
That's good to know, given that most folks are putting the HR24 into a different class from the other HRs.
"Working on?" Being able for them to track (which they likely already do) and the customer to select a specific model in not rocket science. They just need to build a process to allow it for those that want to be able to select a model (inventory allowing) to do so.
This is an inventory problem.
Ever been in a restaurant where the different dishes are just variations on a theme? Many Italian restaurants are this way. You can order the veal prepared three different ways, or chicken the same three ways. The marinara sauce can be on the spaghetti or ravioli. The restauranteur doesn't do this because he isn't creative. He does it because it's cheaper. He has less food costs.
Now let's do it your way and order DirecTV's DVRs a la carte. The only people that want a HR20-700 are a few weirdos on this board (like me ). Maybe nobody wants a HR23 because it has gotten the reputation of being the slowest of the bunch. The result is whole warehouses of DVRs that need to be junked. On top of that, thousands of folks want HR24s but DirecTV doesn't have thousands in stock as it's a new model and demand has outstripped supply. Does DirecTV then cancel all those installations?
There are two ways you can make money, muzicman82. You can charge more, which is your solution. Or you can cut costs, which is DirecTV's answer. Having a one-size-fits-all policy is the cheapest way to go.
For all I know it was already done, but I can't confirm that.
I got my HR-22 for free because my HR-20 went bad. That is why I don't think I am going to get an HR-24 just to go a little bit faster. Unless I could get an HR-24 for free?
I have 1 old silver HR20-700 DVR and 2 new style DVR's and my old silver hot running piece of crap is 4 times better than the new slower ones.
If you have one, don't trade up.
Maybe I misunderstood something... if I request MRV and Internet Connection doesn't this mean I will get an HR24? I thought the HR24 was the only receiver capable or serving MRV.
Also I'm one of the old DirecTiVo hold outs so this would include a swap out of the dish and a SWM install correct?
You misunderstood. All HD DVRs are MRV and internet capable. All have ethernet jacks. But all except the HR24 need an external DECA networking module to use the new DECA-based networking.
I also ordered a HD-DVR from D and received a HR22 yesterday. Called and the CSR told me that the only way I can guarantee a HR24 is to have the SWM installed (which I don't want to do). So I will be returning the HR22 today. I'll try again later.
DirecTV certainly has blown the introduction of the HR24. They could have managed their inventory much better.
They knew the HR24 would be a significant step forward. While some folks preferred the HR23 over its predicessors, and same for the HR22 and HR21, they were all basically the same receiver. The HR24 is different. It is the first of a new generation of DirecTV DVRs. DirecTV knew this. They should have held back its release a month or two until the barn was empty of all the old models.
In thirty years of selling hi-fi, I never once had a customer come in and ask me, "What's old?"
I disagree with you on this one. DirecTV doesn't advertise their receivers like other companies. I can bet you that there are tens of thousands of HR24's that have been installed in people's homes that have no idea DirecTV has multiple HD DVR models. We're dealing with less than half a % of DirecTV's customers on this board and they're just the most vocal about wanting one. There are two people in this camp. People who really do want the latest receiver and went about getting it the guaranteed way. Then there's the other camp who want this specific model ,but probably had a discounted offer, and are upset that they didn't get the HR24.
No one asks "what's old" but when someone sees the price of brand new they do say "what else".
The TS isn't even caring about speed ,or functions, he's caring about model numbers and when it was manufactured. The HR22/23 has the same CPU, memory, HD's as the HR22. It has different drivers because the tuners have wide band built in. He's making assumptions that a newer model will always be better off when in fact until the HR 24 it was about even no matter what.