According to the fcc database Ashtabula County OH has 3 stations from the Erie DMA listed as Significantly viewed. How would I go about getting them added to my local lineup?
If a station is on the FCC's Significantly Viewed list the only way to prevent DIRECTV/Dish from carrying it is for the local to petition to have the status changed so it doesn't qualify as Significantly Viewed.wilbur_the_goose said:I'm betting that when you're working with an "O&O", you'd have no chance of getting a neighboring local to be shown.
all 3 Networks claimed they have contracts with the other networks that forbids them.Mike Bertelson said:. As to whether or not this is why damondlt can't get his Significantly Viewed channels I've got no idea, but as you can see it certainly is possible.
A comment to everyone, the search engine is your friend.
Mike
Who is saying its not possible? We are showing where DirecTV has rights but not anywhere saying its not possible for them to not be able to offer the channels.damondlt said:all 3 Networks claimed they have contracts with the other networks that forbids them.
Some of you Guys are telling me no thats not possible.
Well where are they then?
I can tell you when I reached NY4 yesterday that the gentleman I spoke with didnt appear to completely know what I was talking about. I dont think after I hung up he completely knew either. My intentions were to let him speak to his legal team and call him back next week. In the mean time if I could find a cable co that is in another DMA that is getting NY4 it would help a lot.damondlt said:I am not fighting so stop taking it so personal guys.
Everyone is telling me I'm not doing enough, But yet no one else is telling who to contact.
The GMs didn't work.
This is all you would have had to say, about 40 posts ago.joshjr said:Most DMA's that are smaller wont want a larger DMA (much less the largest DMA) offering their channels in their market.
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Try Adams cable in Wayne county PA, I believe Carbondale Pa They are still Scranton Wilkes barre though, Just different provider? You are not going to get NY locals in Philly DMA on Satellite if thats what your asking.joshjr said:. In the mean time if I could find a cable co that is in another DMA that is getting NY4 it would help a lot.
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I've seen a lot of systems in Pennsylvania do some of these part time. Can you tell?damondlt;3190581 said:Adams cable list in Waymart PA , that same county as mine!
WYOU - 22 - CBS
WOLF - 56 - FOX
WBRE - 28 - NBC
Adams Community Ch
WNEP - 16 - ABC
WVIA - 44 - PBS
WNBC -4 -NBC NY
WSWB - 38 - CW
WQPX - 64 - ION
TV Guide
WNEP Anytime
WQMY - My Network
Part time what? Channels?tonyd79 said:I've seen a lot of systems in Pennsylvania do some of these part time. Can you tell?
This could help. We all know cable laws are different but, the local NBC must not be complaining to bad if the Cable Co there offers WNBC. This could help alot. The fact that its in the same county and DMA as you is big. I dont know if its big enough but I will definitely use it to your advantage.damondlt said:Adams cable list in Waymart PA , that same county as mine!
WYOU - 22 - CBS
WOLF - 56 - FOX
WBRE - 28 - NBC
Adams Community Ch
WNEP - 16 - ABC
WVIA - 44 - PBS
WNBC -4 -NBC NY
WSWB - 38 - CW
WQPX - 64 - ION
TV Guide
WNEP Anytime
WQMY - My Network
What you are referring to is stations on a cable system that are not on the significantly viewed list and are forced to black out duplicate programming. When this happens, mostly what people get for the out of market DMA is weather and news information. For some that is what they are after anyways. Examples would be the station imported is from the state you live in while your DMA's locals are not, the weather alerts from the imported station give you an advanced warning before your DMA picks up the storm coverage, etc.tonyd79 said:I've seen a lot of systems in Pennsylvania do some of these part time. Can you tell?
Time Warner Cable is also in wayne county, but I don't know where or have an address to enter to check the line up.joshjr said:This could help. .
When I run into this, I use a restaurant address for that town or Post Office or something is common in most towns. I can try to look too. What town in Wayne county would Time Warner Cable offer service too?damondlt said:Time Warner Cable is also in wayne county, but I don't know where or have an address to enter to check the line up.
They hide that info like its a bank account number.
I don't think it's possible to force DIRECTV to put up these channels. The statute specifically says "Carriage of a signal under this section is not mandatory..."damondlt said:<snip>
So how do you force Directv to lite up these channels?
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Im not sure, I would just assume extreme northern wayne. Since Time Warner runs in NY right at the norther boarder.joshjr said:When I run into this, I use a restaurant address for that town or Post Office or something is common in most towns. I can try to look too. What town in Wayne county would Time Warner Cable offer service too?
So bottom line, we don't currently have them so we are getting them anytime soon.Mike Bertelson said:I don't think it's possible to force DIRECTV to put up these channels. The statute specifically says "Carriage of a signal under this section is not mandatory..."
IIUC, Title 47, Chapter 5, § 340 says this...
I'm guessing that since it is not mandatory it's entirely possible that DIRECTV could make non-carriage of neighboring locals part of an agreement with whatever company owns a given local station. It's their option to carry so I could see a situation where they might use that as a bargaining chip to bring down the price a bit. Of course that's something we'll never know...they're certainly not gonna tell us.
- Stations on the Significantly Viewed list are permitted to be carried by Satellite providers.
- The FCC determines who is eligible and puts them on a list.
- Carriage is NOT mandatory.
- Exclusivity rules don't apply.
- For a local to evoke the exclusivity rules they have to petition the FCC and challenge whether or not a station is eligible to be Significantly Viewed in a given town/county.
Mike
They don't have to come to an agreement with the local channel at all. If haven't specifically agreed to keep the SV channel out, they don't have to get permission from the local. The local can use it as a bargaining chip, as I said before, but they cannot disallow it beyond putting it into carriage talks.damondlt said:So bottom line, we don't currently have them so we are getting them anytime soon.
Directv would still have to come to an agreement with both networks?
OK so again that Directv then no?tonyd79 said:They do need permission (and probably have to pay) the SV channel. They cannot just take anything from the air and put it on.
I dont know who would know this information other than DirecTV and their website dont reflect the ones I am getting so I doubt it would be a good source of information. I am sure if asked most would want the SV stations in their area. I am also equally sure that not everyone would get them and probably most wouldn't. I guarantee you that the DMA's that have no one asking for them wont be having them lit up on DirecTV anytime soon.damondlt said:He's a question
How many of the Local markets that Directv serves, Offer SV channels?
Cause it doesn't look like very many!
I think the bottom line is we'll ever know why they're not carrying certain neighboring locals or if they ever will.damondlt said:So bottom line, we don't currently have them so we are getting them anytime soon.
Directv would still have to come to an agreement with both networks?
The tool at this linkjoshjr said:I dont know who would know this information other than DirecTV and their website dont reflect the ones I am getting so I doubt it would be a good source of information. I am sure if asked most would want the SV stations in their area. I am also equally sure that not everyone would get them and probably most wouldn't. I guarantee you that the DMA's that have no one asking for them wont be having them lit up on DirecTV anytime soon.