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How will D* fire back?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Radio Enginerd, Oct 29, 2007.

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  1. Marcus S

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    It all seems to come around in the end. You replied before my last edit so hopefully no one takes it all seriously.
     
  2. harsh

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    $120 is paying for service that they would have otherwised comped you as a promotion
    I was pointing out that the DIRECTV exit price is substantially higher.
    And you've supported my point. With D* you get to pay $199 up front and if you decide you want out, you pay another $300 less 13/month per month. Under the worst case circumstances you could be out almost $500 (and possibly forfeit your programming credits) if it doesn't work out. With DISH, you could be out $49.99.
     
  3. harsh

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    This is the national HD count less PPV if you count them as channels.
    Now we've departed entirely from the national HD channels.
    Nobody's counting channels that don't exist.
    Given how few qualify, I would consider this negligible.If you add the CI, NBA and NFL channels you get 9 NFL, 7 NBA, 13 NHL, you actually get 110.[/quote]Here's what I was talking about. Most of these are made up of RSN feeds (oftentimes game only). This is what I was talking about when I mentioned double and triple counting.
     
  4. gully_foyle

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    So, I guess D* needs to put up a few hundred HD VoD infomercials and call it a couple hundred more "channels."
     
  5. gully_foyle

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    If it isn't HD it doesn't exist.
     
  6. n3ntj

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    Promo I received in the mail today from E* says:

    "Only with Dish! More HD Channels than any other provider in the country"

    I wonder what kind of math they are using..?
     
  7. Earl Bonovich

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    Why would they do that?

    They are actively stating their are "against" COMCAST's counting of VOD offereings as HD channels.
     
  8. jtn

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    Comcast does offer HD INDemand for HBO/Showtime and many free movies etc. Not just informercials. Whether it should be counted or not is debatable.
     
  9. hasan

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    I can't believe how restrained I am being.:)
     
  10. Ken S

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    In my kingdom if I don't watch it...it doesn't count. Much of the "new" HD is just the same drek piled Higher and Deeper.
     
  11. marksman

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    Content is King.

    Content recording device is Queen.
     
  12. marksman

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    Is Dish going to add the reasonable number of NEW HD channels within that 18 month period?
     
  13. Badger

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    There WAS a E* satellite supposed to be going up about the same time as D11 but E's launch has been scrubbed because of a problem at the launch site. Still hasn't been re-scheduled and looks like probably late spring at best. D11 is on the launch scedule and D* has stated that D12 will be going up sometime late 2008. E* won't be catching up soon!
     
  14. tonyd79

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    You don't listen, do you? DirecTV is not counting the RSNs in their count....

    They are a bit dodgy in the DNS and a few channels they haven't launched yet but they are not counting RSNs and are not double counting ANYTHING.

    But I give you what they ARE counting (even telling you that some of it is a bit shady) yet you continue to claim they are counting double. I even showed you that if they did count double as you claim, they would be claiming over 110 channels not just over 70.

    I don't think you are that dumb. Just act that way when it benefits your agenda.
     
  15. Ken S

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    D12 is a backup satellite I thought and won't be used for additional programming. Don't they keep the backups in a more distant orbit and only move them into place when/if necessary?
     
  16. jtn

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    Sounds reasonable that a backup would be there in case of a failure of a satellite.
     
  17. LameLefty

    LameLefty I used to be a rocket scientist

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    D12 is (currently) a ground spare duplicate of D10 and D11 (with possible engineering changes to alleviate whatever semi-mysterious spotbeam issue afflicted D10 and may have contributed to the extra-long on-orbit test phase). Chase Carey stated, in a presentation to investors a month or so back, that "the next" satellite (obviously D12) would be launched in late '08. So far I have yet to see any firm announcement of a launch order with any of the launch service providers, but then again, I haven't been specifically looking either.

    An orbital spare makes more sense than a ground spare for any number of reasons, not the least of which that it takes something like 3 - 6 months to prep a satellite for launch, even after you have a reasonably firm date to shoot for. I would guess D12 will be parked in an orbit close to 103 or 99 and either share transponder assignments with the sat (D10 or 11) already there (remember, frequency assignments are fixed no matter how many birds you have up there), or in a parking obit a few degrees away but able to be moved into position in short order to take over completely in case of emergency.
     
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