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HR 21-700 installation disaster

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by racingminnieb, Oct 22, 2007.

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  1. phat78boy

    phat78boy Hall Of Fame

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    It really sounds like there might be a split somewhere in your house wiring.
     
  2. RobertE

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    Ok, those transponders you are refering too, they are all spot beams. You may or may not get a signal on them. If you do, you are probably on the fringe area of another DMA, those levels will fluctuate depending on a number of factors.

    Can you post a snap shot of the transponder matrix for each of the sats? If no on the pics, please type them out.
     
  3. racingminnieb

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    update, tuners are bouncing after removal of wires in bedrooms. I have now reinstalled wire in one room and still have bouncing. I found a 950-2050 MHZ power inserter on the wire in the room with the TIVO, have removed it and I still have bouncing on the tuner 2.
     
  4. RobertE

    RobertE New Member

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    Please also list all the DirecTv boxes you currenty have active.
     
  5. racingminnieb

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    Satellite Transponders ( 32 total at 101 degree) ( Tuner 1)

    1-8 95 95 91 82 94 98 92 98
    9-16 92 95 91 76 93 98 91 98
    17- 24 92 95 91 79 94 98 92 98
    25-32 92 0 92 94 94 98 89 98


    Satellite Transponders ( 32 total at 101 degree) ( Tuner 2)

    1-8 0 95 85 82 0 98 92 95
    9-16 92 95 85 75 0 98 88 98
    17-24 92 95 82 77 94 98 85 98
    25-32 88 0 92 94 86 98 84 98

    Satellite Transponders 110 degree (Tuner 1)
    1-8 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A 96
    9-16 N/A 95 N/A 96 N/A N/A N/A N/A
    17-24 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
    25-32 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A

    Satellite Transponders 110 degree (Tuner 2)
    1-8 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A 96
    9-16 N/A 95 N/A 96 N/A N/A N/A N/A
    17-24 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
    25-32 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A

    Satellite Transponders 119 ( 11 total at 119) ( tuner 1)

    1-8 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
    9-16 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
    17-24 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A 95 96 93
    25-32 0 97 89 96 51 96 97 96

    Satellite Transponders 119 ( 11 total at 119) ( tuner 2)

    1-8 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
    9-16 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
    17-24 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A 95 79 88
    25-32 0 95 91 96 46 96 97 96


    Satellite Transponders (6 TOTAL AT 99 degree (b)) ( tuner 1)

    1-8 26 0 79 0 76 0 N/A N/A
    9-16 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
    17-24 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
    25-32 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A

    Satellite Transponders (6 TOTAL AT 99 degree (b)) ( tuner 2)

    1-8 24 0 79 0 76 0 N/A N/A
    9-16 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
    17-24 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
    25-32 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A

    Satellite Transponders ( 7 total at 103 degrees (a) ) ( tuner 1)

    1-8 80 97 0 100 57 98 N/A N/A
    9-16 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
    17-24 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
    25-32 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A

    Satellite Transponders ( 7 total at 103 degrees (a) ) ( tuner 2)

    1-8 80 97 0 100 57 98 N/A N/A
    9-16 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
    17-24 0 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
    25-32 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A


    Satellite Transponders (16 total at 103 degrees (b)) ( tuner 1)

    1-8 80 71 79 69 79 71 78 69
    9-16 79 74 80 73 80 79 N/A N/A
    17-24 85 N/A N/A N/A N/A 80 N/A N/A
    25-32 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A

    Satellite Transponders (16 total at 103 degrees (b)) ( tuner 2)

    1-8 79 70 71 69 38 71 30 70
    9-16 81 74 32 73 73 79 N/A N/A
    17-24 63 N/A N/A N/A N/A 80 N/A N/A
    25-32 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
     
  6. racingminnieb

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    HR 21-700
    Phillips TIVO DSR704 ( only one tuner
    RCA DRD42ORE
     
  7. racingminnieb

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    I disconnected the TIVO from the outside of the house and I have the same problem. I disconnected the RCA from the outside of the house and now my signal is strong and steady. I then turned on the light in the living room and the signal disappeared and came back on Tuner 2 which is connected on the same wall. I turned the light off and everything came back in. This sounds electrical in the house doesn't it. Is there anything I can do here besides rewire my entire house?
     
  8. racingminnieb

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    I also reconnected the TIVO and still strong signal. Right now I am in the dark with the TV and I have a strong signal.
     
  9. RobertE

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    Another member in this thread appears to be having similar problems.

    http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=105904

    Are your lights on a dimmer? It very well could be something in the wall switches/lights themselves that is generating some bad RF that the HR20 is sensitive too.

    VOS might be able to shed more light on it. No pun intended. :p
     
  10. phat78boy

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    I bet you have non-sheilded cable that is run close to your power cables. The power cables are bleeding throu to your RG6 cable. Still odd that you said a complete seperate run from your dish to your HR21 was still having issues.
     
  11. hdtvfan0001

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    The more symptoms I'm reading, the more I'm convinced its a coax wiring issue.
     
  12. RobertE

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    But if the installer ran a temp line straight from the LNB to the receiver and the problem remained, that should rule out bad coax.
     
  13. phat78boy

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    Agreed. Did you actually see him have the cable running through the house?
     
  14. racingminnieb

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    Yes. I was there the whole time. The only thing I can't confirm is where on the dish he connected / disconnected.
     
  15. houskamp

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    get one of those cheap wall plug testers.. see if you got a plug wired backwards..
     
  16. phat78boy

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    How long of a run do you think it is? From the dish to your HR21.
     
  17. wildbill129

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    where is the dish grounded to?
     
  18. phat78boy

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    Good call...
     
  19. racingminnieb

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    Funny I just finished reading that one before I saw your post. It does sound very familiar. You just gotta laugh at this kind of stuff sometimes.
     
  20. racingminnieb

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    I don't know what it is grounded too. I can see the green wire in the box on the same connecter block that the coax cables are on. I can also see a grounding block too.
     
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