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HR-24 Slowness Freezing b/c of eSata?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by heelsmj, Oct 27, 2010.

  1. Nov 5, 2010 #61 of 140
    Rich

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    I think once everyone understands how the increased sensitivity of the 24s needs to be taken into consideration when using an external drive, we'll see the "problems" with the EVDS drives go away. While I caused the first 500 to fail the second one is working very well with the SAME EVDS external drive. Sometimes you have to admit "operator failure" is the cause of the problems.

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  2. Nov 5, 2010 #62 of 140
    hdtvfan0001

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    True.

    Think that'll ever happen? :D
     
  3. Nov 5, 2010 #63 of 140
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    People do hate to admit that they cause problems. I worked with an EE once who told me to just stay off to the side and keep my mouth shut while he programmed a chiller. After two or three days of keeping quiet and watching him struggle, I finally asked him why the Start button wasn't illuminated. We hit the Start button, the chiller started right up and he finished the programming in about an hour. I've got a lot of stories like that. People just don't want to take responsibility for their actions. The EE did have the grace to apologize to me and we never had a problem working together again.

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  4. Nov 5, 2010 #64 of 140
    hdtvfan0001

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    For sure.

    If I had a nickel for every time a problem was caused by a cable not plugged in or connected properly, or else plugged in to the wrong place...I'd be rich.
     
  5. Nov 5, 2010 #65 of 140
    Rich

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    My union president brought his hedge trimmer and extension cord to work one day and asked me to fix his trimmer. I took the trimmer off the extension cord and plugged it into a wall socket and turned it on and it worked perfectly. He couldn't understand how that was possible until I picked up his extension cord and found the spot where he ran the trimmer thru it. He was quite chagrined. And this is a really smart guy. Happens. If I had a nickel for every time it happened I'd be...

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  6. Nov 5, 2010 #66 of 140
    hdtvfan0001

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    !rolling
     
  7. Nov 5, 2010 #67 of 140
    adamson

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    Thought I would report how my new external drive works with the HR24-500. I purchased a Western Digital My Book AV DVR Expander, model #WDBABT0010HBK. Absolutely no issues, HR24 is as zippy as day one without the external drive. No studder, freeze whatsoever.

    Did I not read somewhere anything over 1TB is not supported? Just wondering, Im no expert as some here.
     
  8. Nov 6, 2010 #68 of 140
    Rich

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    I've haven't tried using a 1.5 or 2TB with several models, but I can assure you that the 20-700s, 21-700s, 24-200s and 24-500s will work very well with 2TB externals. Never tried a 21-200, but I can't imagine it not working with the large internals either. And if they'll support an external that big, they'll easily take an internal drive that large.

    The rest I've never tried or wouldn't waste my money on.

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  9. Nov 8, 2010 #69 of 140
    bondheli

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    That doesn't explain why my two hr24's I've owned stutter free since June both decided to start doing this at the exact same time.


    Well that's rich ;). But as I said above it does not explain why heelsmj, Mike Greer, elixir26, dsm, SPG900NY, and I all had no problems for months then all got the same symptoms around the same time period. What does explain it though is a bad or malicious firmware update.
     
  10. Nov 8, 2010 #70 of 140
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    The NRs we have gotten since June are the explanation. Most NRs cause problems with some HRs.

    First, Mike Greer is cursed by the Gods of D*. :) (Sorry Mike, I just couldn't resist.)

    Aside from that, how do you handle rebooting the 24s and which model 24s are you having the problems with? Both my 500 and 200 are running smoothly and I haven't had a problem since I wrecked that first 500. That doesn't explain away your problems, but some more info might help. Bear in mind that NRs are usually not without problems. My first 500 was working very well until the first NR and it was a downhill trip from that point on. And what I did certainly didn't help it get better.

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  11. Nov 11, 2010 #71 of 140
    bondheli

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    I don't know what NRs are but just an update, the lagging seems to be getting worse by the day. I hope dtv fixes this soon, the dvr's are becoming almost unusable.
     
  12. Nov 11, 2010 #72 of 140
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    Let me know when it improves. I was about to swap my HR20-700 with D* approved eSATA, but I'll hold off now.
     
  13. Nov 11, 2010 #73 of 140
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    An NR is a National Release of firmware. Don't honestly know what the difference is between firmware and software.

    Do you have and use MRV?

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  14. Nov 11, 2010 #74 of 140
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    What is a "D* approved eSATA"? Unless something's changed, D* only "suggested" two eSATAs and certainly doesn't support them. And one of them doesn't seem to work with every model of the HRs.

    If there's nothing wrong with that 20-700, you already have the most reliable HR (at the moment). And it's almost as fast as the 24s. While I don't have any problems with my two 24s, one a 500 and the other a 200, I see that many others do and you might want to wait until D* gets all the 24s as stable as the 20-700s. Time and patience.

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  15. Nov 11, 2010 #75 of 140
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    rich - The family was interested in 3D, something the HR20-700 can't do.
     
  16. Nov 11, 2010 #76 of 140
    hdtvfan0001

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    Yup....an important point.
     
  17. Nov 11, 2010 #77 of 140
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    I think it can if it is used with MRV thru a 24. That sounds confusing. Here's another way to look at it: You record the 3D show on your 20-700 and access that program with a 24 or any of the other models that support 3D thru MRV and the program plays in 3D. I think that will work. Shame to just chuck a good 20-700. (I'm kinda biased towards the 20-700s.)

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  18. Nov 11, 2010 #78 of 140
    hdtvfan0001

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    Not to worry....I loved my 2 HR20-700's until they both got replaced with newer stuff. Sometimes we have to say goodbye to the kids when they grow up... :D
     
  19. Nov 11, 2010 #79 of 140
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    Can't do it, hanging on to my good ole 20-700s for as long as they work. I've got eight of them and they are still the best of the bunch, I think. Can't comment on the 24s yet. Too new. New NRs coming to them, Doug says.

    Was I right about playing the 3D programs thru MRV on the 24s?

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  20. Nov 11, 2010 #80 of 140
    hdtvfan0001

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    They can record, but not play locally...MRV is the cure.

    Let thy children go... :lol:
     

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