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Hr20-700 Ir Vs. Rf

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by JFHughes08088, Jul 29, 2007.

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  1. carl6

    carl6 Moderator Staff Member DBSTalk Club

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    I was in contact with a DirecTV engineering resource and commented on the IR & RF option. His initial reaction was a bit of surprise that anyone would want both at the same time, but indicted they would look into the possibility.

    I do not know if that will eventually result in anything happening, but I am in full agreement that a "both" option is needed in many situations.

    Carl
     
  2. TOPH25

    TOPH25 New Member

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    Here's my story on why I'd like both RF & IR. In the house, I'd like to use an RF remote to control the HR20 and outside the house, I'd like to use the Slingbox IR blaster to control the HR20. Not having a combined option leaves me to use the IR remotes which only are picked up if I point the remote directly at the HR20. Switching between the two RF & IR is challenging since, if I forget to change it, there no way to control the box with the Slingbox IR blaster and no way to change back to IR if I am away from home. Hope this gets worked out on a future update!!!!:lol:
     
  3. Milominderbinder2

    Milominderbinder2 Cutting Edge: ECHELON '08

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    Please vote on this wish list item and the others. DIRECTV has implemented 24 of our requests.

    When the first HR20's came out the menu had an option for both but it did not work. This may be a hardware issue though...

    - Craig
     
  4. veryoldschool

    veryoldschool Lifetime Achiever Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    Two cents:
    What would you do with multiple units side by side?
    When mine are in IR mode all of them respond to a remote. I use RF to talk to just the unit I intend to.
     
  5. Edmund

    Edmund Remote Master

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    There are two IR addresses to choose from, so you can have two receivers side by side set to IR without conflicts.


    http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=1041405#post1041405
     
  6. veryoldschool

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  7. sdub

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    Here's why I want simultaneous IR & RF... this was a real bummer to learn. My install is this Wednesday.:(

    One of my favorite HR20 features was to be the simultaneous HD & SD output. That way I can modulate the SD and send it to the whole house. I was going to put the HR20 remote as my "roaming" remote to use in rooms without line of sight, and my Harmony 676 was going to be used to control the unit in the same room. I use my Harmony for everything else... I'd hate to not be able to still use it!

    I guess I'll have to keep using what I've always used... I'll put the HR20 in IR mode and use the RF remote converter to roam with it.

    http://www.weaknees.com/rf-remote-details.php

    ^^ That's the greatest invention in the world, by the way. I don't know how it works, but it does. It turns any IR remote into an RF one.
     
  8. quickfire

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    Guys I have the HR20 100 & 700...Is it possible to have both receivers set to RF mode and control both receivers with one remote??I have tried everything I could think of but I ended up setting my HR20 100 to IR mode!!!!!
     
  9. Edmund

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    Yes, set each to RF using its own remote, once they're set to RF, take any remote and do the following, leaving receivers alone:

    1. av1 or av2
    2. press and hold MUTE & SELECT for two blinks
    3. enter 9 6 1
    4. press CH UP
    5. enter the last 6 digits of the receiver ID # for the receiver not already controlled by the directv device key, you'll find the receiver ID # on a sticker in the access card compartment
    6. press SELECT
     
  10. quickfire

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    Edmund..before I attempt doing this........Do I have to use AV1 & AV2.....The reason I ask is I have my dvd player on AV2......Or can I use SAT & AV1 for this setup??
    Thanks quickfire
     
  11. quickfire

    quickfire Godfather

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    Sorry after reading your post again I see that I can use the Sat & AV1 selectors!!!!

    UPDATE: PLEASE dont Laugh to hard.......I figured out what I was doing wrong and OMG it was so stupid of me to not follow every detail with the onscreen instructions

    I would get to the end of the reciver ID # and push channel up to see if would work....HOW STUPID of me..LOL

    ALL I had to do was push SELECT button.....to complete the code change!!

    Well I now have both receivers set to RF mode....and have all 4 D* remotes setup to control both receivers .......Thanks EDMUND
     
  12. thekochs

    thekochs DirecTV 10yr+ Customer

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    You mean by "directv device....the receiver only ...correct" ? I thought the IR in the remote was still broadcasted ?...only the receiver does not accept anymore. I mention because I've tried in the past when trying to do combos of HR20s, H20s that exceeded the 3-max IR combo and found the remote broadcast IR as well in RF mode....I actually had to put black electrical tape on end of remote to kill the IR transmission. You are by far the expert so I must have done something wrong....just tried it a zillon ways and always seemed to have a dual transmit IR/RF function.
     
  13. Edmund

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    When a device on the remote is set to RF, it is RF only, for that one device, it being Directv symbol devices, AV1 or AV2.

    With one of the following remotes rc24, rc34, rc32rf, rc64r, or rc64rb, do the following:

    1. select DTV symbol device
    2. press and hold MUTE & SELECT for two blinks
    3. enter 9 6 1
    4. press CH UP
    5. enter ANY 6 digits
    6. press SELECT

    now if you have digital camera or camcorder, while looking through the eyepiece press any key on the directv device, do you see a light? no. Now press the Volume keys, see a light, yes.
     
  14. Aggie86

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    ARRRRRGH!!

    Need a little help from the Remote Master! I have 3 HR20's in the same rack (in the main room connected to main TV AND modulated throughout the house). After reading this thread...thought I had things figured out.

    My plan was to set:
    HR20#1 (named DAD) to IR Code 00001
    HR20#2 (named MOM) to IR Code 00003
    HR20#3 (named KIDS) to RF (using 6 digit code)

    Then I would set up each Remote (2x RC34, and 2x RC64RB) the same using:

    DTV = IR,00001
    AV1 = IR,00003
    AV2 = RF,6-digitCode

    Here's my problem...
    First RC34(Office) - works perfect....set exactly as stated above
    2nd RC34 (MasterBR)- DTV, AV1 programed perfect...can't get RF to work on AV2
    - When I try: MODE -> AV2
    Mute & Select, 961 (get double blink above AV2)
    Channel up (here's where things go wrong...the ch up lights the light above DTV and the each digit in the code does the same thing)

    First RC64 (KidsRm)- Installer set to RF on DTV...I can't reset to IR for DTV
    (RF works fine in DTV...IR,00003 works in AV1)
    Tried MODE > DTV, MUTE & SELECT (double blink), 00001....no change still in RF mode

    2nd RC64(LivRm) - DTV = IR,00001 AV1 = IR,00003 AV2 = can't set to RF
    (same problem as 2nd RC34 listed above)

    Any ideas? I tried entering the 9 6 1 then channel up....slow, fast, etc...

    Thanks in Advance - John
     
  15. Edmund

    Edmund Remote Master

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    you need to enter IR code, like 00001 or 00003, before the device can be set to RF, so:

    1. av2
    2. press and hold MUTE & SELECT for two blinks
    3. enter 0 0 0 0 1

    1. av2
    2. press and hold MUTE & SELECT for two blinks
    3. enter 9 6 1
    4. press CH UP
    5. enter last 6 digits of the receiver ID #
    6. press SELECT

    To turn off the RF:

    1. dtv
    2. press and hold MUTE & SELECT for two blinks
    3. enter 9 6 1
    4. press CH DOWN

    See my solution to remote one
     
  16. Aggie86

    Aggie86 New Member

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    Edmund,
    Thanks so much!! You truly are the REMOTE MASTER...
    That worked like a champ.

    I was really stumped 'cause the first remote worked and none of the others would. Now I remember, when I got the first HR20 I tried lots of different IR codes in AV1 & AV2. I must have left 00001 or 00003 in AV2 for that remote.

    Guess I just missed the 961 channel DOWN to turn RF off.

    Thanks Again (especially for the quick response) - John
     
  17. Lord Vader

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    Personally, I'd take an RF remote that was actually responsive. Whenever I use my HR20 remote in RF mode, it's very slow to respond--I often have to press a button several times to get the response I want. When I use the remote in IR mode, it's immediately responsive.
     
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