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HR20 - ATSC/OTA Discussion

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Tips and Resources' started by Earl Bonovich, Dec 2, 2006.

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  1. yamaham

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    If OTA is less compressed than, say, local MPEG4s, will an OTA recording use more space on the HR20?
     
  2. hasan

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    Yes it will...the same space as MPEG-2 on Sat like Discovery HD Theater et al (or close...actually the OTA will take a little bit more)
     
  3. yamaham

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    thanks hasan
     
  4. Strejcek

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    OTA is nice to finally have. The internal tuners are better than the ones in the HR10; however, they are not as good as the tuners in my Mits 73927. There are channels that my tv gets that the HR20 will not pull in. Earl, maybe you can check and see if the tuner sensitivity could be adjusted with a software update. Other than that, thanks again for getting OTA for those of us that were lucky enough to force a software update last night.
     
  5. Earl Bonovich

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    DirecTV is watching all these threads...
    They are certainly looking into a lot of the OTA reception posts.
     
  6. gpg

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    My SXRD also has a more sensitive tuner than the HR20. Of course, the tv only has one ATSC tuner so there's no internal splitting of the signal unlike the HR20.
     
  7. Indiana627

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    My HR10 does not do well with multi-path issues, even though my Sony KDF-E50A10 pulls these stations in fine. Has anyone that had multi-path problems with an HR10 found that the HR20 handles this problem better?
     
  8. DCSholtis

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    Ok I did the download last night. Set up the OTA using the wizard but when I go to check signal levels the tuner appears to not be receiving signals on any of my sub channels. Possible the OTA tuner in my box is DOA?? Earl or anyone have any ideas?!!
     
  9. Groundhog45

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    I noticed one problem that I think someone else mentioned last night on the Santa thread. When I go in to update the favorites list, I can scroll down but not up. I first thought I had to exit back to the menu but later found I could just enter the channel number that I wanted to page up to and the list would jump there. Minor problem and easy workaround. :D

    GH
     
  10. hasan

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    Are you saying you get no OTA-HD at all or are you saying some sub-channels are missing?

    If it is just missing sub-channels, that is due to a database issue with D* that they ar e looking into at the moment. If you are missing all OTA signals, then that's a different matter.

    Try going into "initital antenna setup" again ...start from scratch if nothing else works.
     
  11. litzdog911

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    With just one day's of use, I would say that the HR20's OTA tuner deals with high multipath much better than my HR10-250. I have lots of trees & hills in my area and often the HR10's signal will drop momentarily during strong winds, even with my highest signal level stations. The HR20 has yet to do this.

    Also, the HR20 tuner seems to be more sensitve to weaker signals. I have a couple of low power DTV stations that register a signal too weak for my HR10 to lock onto, yet the HR20 produces almost usable video, but with frequent signal breakups.

    So far I'm very impressed with the HR20's tuners.
     
  12. swedishcancerboi

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    Why can't I scan for off-air channels?

    I am missing a sub channel or 2. Not that they are paticularly important stations, but its the principle.
     
  13. litzdog911

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    It's just the way that DirecTV implemented over-the-air for now. But this approach does put more emphasis on an accurate channel listing database.
     
  14. DCSholtis

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    Ive gone into the wizard twice. Here is what happens, after the scan when I go to tune into an OTA sub Im getting a 771 message. When I then go to do a system test the OTA passes with 0% signal. This has gotten me confused. I have also done a red button reset hoping that would jumble something into working. No luck. Next I may try unplugging the OTA feed then replugging it in making sure the connection is snug and fit and see if that works.
     
  15. hasan

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    Hmmm...first of all if you have a distribution amp or splitters...bypass both of them and take your antenna input from your outside antenna and plug it directly into the HR20. Then do your setup again.

    If you are using an indoor antenna, try moving it a bit. If your indoor antenna is amplified, put the antenna on your TV directly, tune to an OTA analog channel with your TV (not the HR20 as it doesn't work with analog). Adjust the gain (if you have a gain adjustment) for the clearest signal.

    It sounds like you are either getting too much or too little signal to the HR20. (Every HD receiver acts a bit different.)
     
  16. tiggerbo

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    SO FAR I HAVE NOT HAD A PROBLEM. I LIVE IN THE PHOENIX AREA AND I AM RECEIVING ALL THE CHANNELS. LAST NITE I DID HAVE TO PRESS THE RED BUTTOM AFTER THE DOWNLOAD. SINCE THAN NO PROBLEMS
    PS THANK YOU EARL.
     
  17. DCSholtis

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    Its weird because the antenna is working into my H20 box in another room. Its an outdoor one. No amps or splitters in use. I have a silver sensor laying around I may try that later too. Just to see if that would work. Thanks.
     
  18. hasan

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    Wait...how do you get the antenna to the H20 in the other room, and the HR20 ?

    It sounds like you must be splitting it somewhere? If so, I'd worry about a bad cable, etc. You could bring the H20 over to the same place the HR20 is and try the cable that doesn't work with HR20 on the H20 and see what happens.

    Sure, try the Silver Sensor...assuming you are close enough to get even a few stations, it would be a very instructive test.
     
  19. ChicagoJerry

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    After a couple tries at the antenna setup last night I realized that the reason my HD OTA channels were not showing up in the guide was because they were turned off in my favorites. I don't know if anyone else was as dumb as me but I thought I'd mention that since I saw a few posts about missing channels and sub channels.

    I'm now getting tons of OTA channels but interestingly enough, I don't get CBS HD (WBBMDT), even with an antenna that has actual line of sight to the Sears tower transmitter (and about 3 miles away). Does anyone know if that is where WBBM is broadcast?

    It's funny because my old H10-250 does get WBBM and with only a piece of RG6 cable as the antenna.

    I have two HR20 boxes and neigher get CBS HD.

    Any ideas on what could be wrong?
     
  20. fwlogue

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    The only issue I have seen so far is when watching OTA channels the very top of the screen looks as though it is overscanning. It is especially noticeable on darker video shots
     
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