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HR20 - The Review Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Earl Bonovich, Aug 12, 2006.

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  1. dswallow

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    Receiver sales still exist. DirecTV did NOT go to lease-only. They went to a model where leasing is the default method and generally least expensive method of getting a receiver. A DirecTV dealer can still sell receivers but among other things, they don't get any sort of credit/spiff except in lease cases, so they have to price sold units at or above their own cost (or take a loss).
     
  2. Alan Gordon

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    I've heard other people say that it would be less susceptible... so I just believed them. If I had gotten a SlimLine dish, I wouldn't have complained, but rain fade can be a problem here whenever it rains, so any additional help I can get is great!!

    ~Alan
     
  3. YankeeFan

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    So you are saying that I don't HAVE to lease an HR20...I can actually OWN one???

    Will D* give me a credit for the $1k I dropped on the HR10???
     
  4. ToddD

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    Joe: First have a look at the PDF of the Feb webcast that Alan posted a few pages back. Thats's the best public info....

    There have been some other public statements that have been made.

    At CES 2006 Bill Gates stated that MS and DirecTv would provide Windows Connect support (under the plays for sure program) for the "new HD DVR".

    He also stated that you would be able to play back content from your DVR over at a MS WMC computer....I am quite sure this is done with support for DNLA.

    As to WMC only products....Intel provided that they were working with DirecTv to support DTV tuners for Viv PC's. I have info that we will see this as a part of the Vista roll out (CES 2007) and that beta testing is under way.

    All of this is shown in the PDF......
     
  5. Earl Bonovich

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    After further review... doesn't look like it is grabing an IP address..
    Then again... I am having issues with my broadband router, so (started before the HR20).......... I'll let you know.
     
  6. bonscott87

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    And FYI That the autocorrect is a Tivo patent so DirecTV can't offer this feature unless they wanted to license it from Tivo. Same goes for the wishlist feature.
     
  7. bobnielsen

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    Bainbridge...
    You can "buy" it from Best Buy (that's how I got my H20--the DTV CSR said if I got it there I could save the shipping fee). However, once you activate the unit, it is a lease. If I hadn't activated mine I would have owned a nice $99 paperweight, I guess.

    I don't really see why some folks are so upset about leasing in this case. From a practical point there isn't really that much difference. You pay the same as the "mirroring" fee plus you don't need to pay extra for a protection plan. True, if you deactivate the receiver you must return it, but they don't really have that much residual value for a non-subscriber (although with Ebay, I'm often surprised at what people will buy).

    The DTV models aren't (yet, at least) hackable like the Tivo-based units, so that isn't much of a factor.

    I suspect that if one could buy a HR-20, the price would be well north of $1000. No, thanks.
     
  8. Jeremy W

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    $749 is actually the price many people have been quoted by DirecTV.
     
  9. net17

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    That was my point, I do have DirecTV in my MDU. There is an "FTM" system that can be used, but it does NOT pass MPEG 4 content. So if the FTM is active on the receiver, than that would be my answer. It is almost a moot point, because while I live in Los Angeles, D* will not lease me a box, as I am an MDU customer.
     
  10. mscog

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    I thought the issue with 2 buffers might also be a TIVO patent which might be why D* cannot offer it. This issue worries me.

    Earl,
    Can you watch a prerecorded show while Simultaneously recording 2 other shows? I wonder if it can still do this without 2 buffers. :confused:
     
  11. Earl Bonovich

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    Part of that puzzle though, your MDU would have to upgrade their MDU processing to pass the MPEG4 to your jack in your unit...

    Even when the unit enables FTM
     
  12. Alan Gordon

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    I was thinking about this last night, but once DirecTV cuts off the MPEG2 West Coast HD-DNS, I can see DirecTV adding MPEG4 HD-DNS of "The CW" and "MyNetworkTV".

    Once DirecTV cuts off the East Coast HD-DNS, I can see DirecTV possibly adding a couple of MPEG4 nationals on the current CONUS birds until DirecTV 10 is up and tested. Now that the HR20 is out, I don't believe there would be any reason for DirecTV to put up any more new MPEG2 HD channels.

    ~Alan
     
  13. Jeremy W

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    I really do hope DirecTV sees it this way. We need more national HD channels ASAP.
     
  14. ToddD

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    A good note for us to all think about on that....I saw a report the other day that somewhere around 60+ cable networks have a HD plan in some stage of development for the next 18 to 24 months. Soon there will be LOTS of HD!:)
     
  15. Earl Bonovich

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    And over that same 18-24 months, DirecTV will increase their ability to carry HD... to 150+ channels...
     
  16. ToddD

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    you know those two might just be related:D
     
  17. cabanaboy1977

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    Earl, was looking at the pictures again in the review and one of the screen shots for the settings screen says access car but is a grayed out option. Do you know why that is? (I'm not taking about your access card number but the option for access card on the setting screen). Also you said the active screen stay loaded to make it come up faster later. Does that keep the second tuner tuned to the active channel?
     
  18. Earl Bonovich

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    I didn't notice that with the Access Card... I'll have to check on that.

    From what I have been told, the Interactive applications don't "exit" out right away... so if you return to them, you don't have to wait for the interactive items to re-initalize

    I will have to check to see what happens when I have a recording in the background.
     
  19. Jeremy W

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    He said that the Active application stays loaded, not the screen. The actual "screen" is just a standard video channel, there is no reason to stay tuned to it. The actual interactive code is an application that is run when the receiver tunes to an Active channel. That code is all that needs to stay running in order to improve performance, there is no need to stay tuned to the channel.
     
  20. RAD

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    Dripping...
    Earl, did they change the active weather application on the HR20 so it remembers your zip code and cities across reboots?
     
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