Seriously, I have been looking to upgrade to the HR20 so that I can receive the new D* HD programs but from reading all the problems that everyone seems to be having on here I almost think it is worth not having the extra channels as opposed to having to deal with problem installs, to shows not recording right to pixalation here and no sound there. If I bought the 5 LNB dish and got one of the MPEG-4 decoders and plugged it into the back of the HR10 would that not clear up A LOT of the issues? Also, what the heck is CE? I cant find any threads related to it. NR, whats that?