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HR21 0x168 Discussion

Discussion in 'DIRECTV - HR21 Discussion (private)' started by Vinny, Aug 6, 2007.

  1. RunnerFL

    RunnerFL Well-Known Member

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    Yes, happens to me on most SD recordings.


    Update: changed "all" to "most". I was just able to play 2 SD recordings without them locking up from the beginning.
     
  2. RunnerFL

    RunnerFL Well-Known Member

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    I'd be more than happy to check it out for you Capmeister, just let me know what I'm looking for.
     
  3. tfederov

    tfederov Well-Known Member

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    Would a pic of a show running MPEG-4 and one running MPEG2 be enough? The only thing I wouldn't be able to test (due the inexperience of CC) is the timing of the spoken word vs. written.
     
  4. Vinny

    Vinny New Member

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    I'm confused....where did you change "all" to "most"?
     
  5. Koz

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    I'll start by saying the HR21 is light years ahead of the HR20 when it first came out. I say that first, so that my list of complaints don't sound as bad. :lol:

    1) Remote: I don't like the RC64R. Buttons are "spongy". And my fingers can't find the correct button quite as easily, but that's a matter of time. Very minor complaint, but I hadn't seen anyone else mention anything.

    2) Screen lag: Response to the remote feels slower than on the HR20. Bringing up the guide, play list, scrolling channels, etc. Everything feels a tad slower to me.

    3) Audio dropouts: Was watching TNT HD last night. Every 20 seconds or so, there was a minor audio dropout. Had been watching it on the HR20 and were none there. Need to pay more attention to see if I can replicate this again. If so, I'll post in the issues.

    Other than that, I really like the unit. I haven't had any lockups yet, though I was gone for most of the weekend and my unit doesn't have much mileage on it yet.
     
  6. LameLefty

    LameLefty I used to be a rocket scientist

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    I just noticed that one this afternoon watching an MPEG2 HD recording of Star Trek: Enterprise off HDNet. I haven't yet reported it in the Issues thread but I will.

    Oh, and captions are working fine, so far as I can tell, but I'm not a "captioning connoisseur" so I can't tell you much more than that.

    EDITED TO ADD: Yes, I can. All the captions are left-justified and do not appear below the speaker, FWIW.
     
  7. Vinny

    Vinny New Member

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    In a way I'm happy I'm seeing others with this issue. Now I know it's not only me. I think I have narrowed down that it is a tuner switching issue. See my updates on the original issue.

    Vinny
     
  8. Capmeister

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    Timing is important. Placement is important, too. Right now the H21 and HR20 both have things too far left. Picture couldn't hurt. :)
     
  9. Drew2k

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    In general, I would say this HR21 is about 75% of where the HR20 was a couple of months ago. This is based on repeated freezes when playing back content, loss of audio when watching caught up to live in the buffer, and reboots that get stuck at the sat screen.
     
  10. Capmeister

    Capmeister Large Hairless ApeCutting Edge: ECHELON '08

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    Well, captions should look like this, when centered:

    [​IMG]

    And like this when properly put under speakers:

    [​IMG]
    Notice Roscoe is talking, and the text is more under him, than Boss Hogg. (I got these pics on a Google search--I was not watching Dukes of Hazzard.)

    I took a demonstration video of how CC should look from CaptionMax and put it on my website. Please check it out. This is how POPON captions SHOULD be placed/timed.

    http://www.snarkbait.com/popon.wmv

    The "Order up." and "Thank you." lines especially demonstrate this.

    That and other samples can also be found here:
    http://www.captionmax.com/offline_captioning.php
     
  11. say-what

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    After using the HR21 fairly extensively these last 3 days, I'm quite impressed. I've only had what I'd classify as two serious issues - lockups using the "info" button to access the system info screen and 2 black screens when coming out of standby. The other issues I've had are in that annoyance category, things that need to be fixed, but aren't detracting from my enjoyment. Trick play looks good to me, I haven't missed or had a bad recording other than the one affected by the black screen the other morning and all of my recordings have played so far. I'm up to about 20 SL's and have stuff recording every day - single recordings and dual recordings.

    Knowing that the info button causes lockups for me, I try to avoid using this frequently. I'm wondering whether the network connection has anything to do with this, although all I have networked is the HR21, 2 HR20's, a Slingbox Pro and my computer and all are hardwired. I wasn't networked under 168 on the HR20 and that's the only difference in my setup between the 2 systems under 168, other than this being the HR21, of course. :)

    If it weren't for the lockups and black screens, I'd be very happy and say things were on par with my experience running 168 on the HR20.

    EDIT: Reviewing the CE & NR issue threads for 168, it seems that black screens were a common complaint & I found 1 instance of an "info button" lockup in the CE issue thread.
     
  12. jheda

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    after 2 hours the 21 is off to a good start; trick plays better then the 20... faster guide but it always is when first populated....the blue light looks dimmer to my liking, but that may be the black making it appear that way....
     
  13. Drew2k

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    I just posted this in the issues thread ...

    ISSUE: Ring light intensity

    DESCRIPTION: I had turned down the intensity of the HR21 ring-light a couple of days ago, but noticed this morning that the light seemed brighter. I did turn on the TV and check the version, thinking a software upgrade was initiated, but it was the same version. I didn't try any trick play or any other tests, because I was heading out to work, but I did try to dim the lights and that failed.

    I reported above the problem with audio/video and the progress bar, but just glanced over and saw that the rign light is now on the lower intensity again. My guess is that the light intensity dropped when I changed channels up and down to "resolve" the sync issues. I can't think of any other reason the light would change intensity to a persistent dimmer state on its own ...​

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    Outside of trick-play, has anyone noticed the intensity of the ring light changing on its own? For what reason would resolving the sync issues cause the intensity to dim back to what I had set it to?
     
  14. RunnerFL

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    Yes, it's changed on mine. Putting it in standby and bringing it back out puts it back on full bright, until you use trick play and then it's back to barely on again.

    If you put yours in standby overnight bringing it out would do it. Or it could have possibly rebooted on it's own overnight.
     
  15. Drew2k

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    I never use standby, so this is the first time I've seen the intensity change. Strange behavior, isn't it?
     
  16. RunnerFL

    RunnerFL Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn't exactly say "strange" unless you can rule out that it rebooted itself overnight [which in itself I guess would be strange]. If it didn't reboot itself then, yes, I would say strange.
     
  17. RobertE

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    Mine just does whatever it feels like. Sometimes full bright, or off, or in between. Once it was doing the spinning thing, just wasn't spinning. :confused:

    They have personalities, that is for sure.
     
  18. Drew2k

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    I guess If I'm understanding what you say is happening, toggling from standby to "on" raises the ring lights to full intensity, even if you had them on the dimmest setting, but as soon as you use trick-play, the dim setting is restored. I would call that "strange" - because bringing the box out of standby it should remember the last state of the ring lights, which it apparently does, because the last state is eventually restored with use of trick-play.
     
  19. Drew2k

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    I did call the HR21 "Beauty and the Beast" somewhere in a thread ... I just hope this is a short lived moniker! :lol:
     
  20. say-what

    say-what Active Member

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    It should, but it doesn't. It also doesn't allow you to change the intensity, well other than from bright to dim, forget anything else or going back to bright. It only goes back to bright after being put in standby and then turned back on.
     

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