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HR21-200: 0x16D Issues / Discussion

Discussion in 'DIRECTV - HR21 Discussion (private)' started by Earl Bonovich, Oct 24, 2007.

Did you download 0x16D?

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  1. veryoldschool

    veryoldschool Lifetime Achiever Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    Think of it like a big BIOS chip on your mother board.
    Formating the drive or the reset everything doesn't require a re-download.
     
  2. Michael D'Angelo

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    I have now tried the RC64R remote that came with the unit and still have the same results.
     
  3. HDTVsportsfan

    HDTVsportsfan New Member

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    I got the pushed download last night at 11:18.

    Bmore......My info button works fine. The info comes up as expected.
     
  4. Doug Brott

    Doug Brott Lifetime Achiever DBSTalk Club

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    I checked the signal strength between the two receivers HR20 & HR21 on virtually the same length connection. They were about the same for the Ku sats, but across the board, the Ka sat signals were weaker on the HR21. It's possible that this is a factor of this being two different manufacturers, though.

    I did discover that splitting off the HR20/HR21 using the SWM reduces the signal strength significantly. The HR20 connected via the WB68 received a higher signal by 4-5 points on each transponder.
     
  5. Ken S

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    Not sure if this has been there all along...
    If you are connecting to a network and you used Advanced and type in the IP address, etc. and then try connect. The screen that follows will show:

    Network: Connected.

    It will even post this if the network cable is disconnected from the wall.
    It did properly state it wasn't connected to the internet.
     
  6. Sixto

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    Just did some further testing.

    Mostly just appears that D10/103b is the problem. It's 5+ points lower for every transponder. 101/110/119 and even 99b look fine.

    Have 1 HR20 off SWM-8 port 1, and 2 HR20's & the HR21 off SWM-8 port2 (3-way split). Now also temporarily have the H21 connected to the SWM-8 legacy port 1.

    The H21 was connected exactly where the HR21 is connected now and had a perfect 103b signal.
     
  7. smiddy

    smiddy Tain't ogre til its ogre

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    First off, I need to apologize to hasan, I made a huge assumption on your HDMI issue (which I have confirmed here to be an issue). Unfortunately being at work and not being home to actually test and my want to try to help got in my way of thinking and not presuming there was an issue, when there is. I'm sorry man! Please forgive my retardedness!

    Second, loaded software last night automatically see attachment.

    Third, I reported that I was receiving sound on 721 channels that I do not get, I have confirmed that this is only over HDMI, Optical and Stereo are both ok, no sound.

    Fourth, running media share via WMP 11 (not that that matters), photos are fine but music doesn't play, this is only over HDMI, the background channel sound comes through (I am assuming this is related to third one above). I can get to the music info using the info and it says it is playing. So, I checked both the optical and stereo outs and music indeed was playing. Photos where also fine on both component and composite video outs.

    Fifth, LNB Failure, I have swapped the cables with the adjacent HR20-700 and retested and got a no joy, still fails LNB (see next attachement).

    Sixth, 99 degrees fails. This also fails on my HR20-700 so I don't beleive there is an issue. Transponder 5 is the only one coming up on either one.

    Seventh, signal strength...if the HR21-200 and HR20-700 are representing this signal strength the same way, which I suspect they are not (what are the units reported?), then the HR21-200 reports about 3 to 4 units less than the HR20-700. I have swapped cabling between the two to check the LNB issue and figured I'd check the signal strength too while I'm there. All four runs are essentially the same distance from the antenna. This cound mean that the receiver sensitivity of the two units are not the same (you would thick they have to be since the requirements would have to be the same).

    I think that is all for tonight...I'm a tired puppy and I just got my flu shot. Call it all in my head, but I don't feel well, hopefully it isn't the flu.
     

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  8. smiddy

    smiddy Tain't ogre til its ogre

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    Splitters at the very least reduce the power by 3 dB (one split into two spigots), this is about half the power, so yes, it is significant.

    BTW, I saw the same thing on my setup too, same length cabling, HR20 versus the HR21.
     
  9. Racer88

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    HR20 to PI to SWM8 FTM port 1
    HR21 to SWM8 FTM 2
    HR21 averages about 3 points lower than the HR20.
    The cable I'm currently using for the HR 21 is an older standard RG-6 I had in place as opposed to a significantly newer run of RG-6 quad shield to the PI/HR20. Might replace that cable if the mood hits me, maybe not.

    Press and hold for the info button works quite well for me.

    RF keybounce is horrible both prior to and after the update.

    No media share audio via HDMI.
     
  10. bonscott87

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    It started the auto download at 11pm sharp. It's been stuck on 0% for 10 minutes now. The 3rd number in the upper left is counting up for some reason. About to RBR.
     
  11. bonscott87

    bonscott87 Cutting Edge: ECHELON '07

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    Well, as I was walking up to give it the one finger salute it rebooted itself. Now it's on to Step 1 of 2. If it did download it never gave indication or progress on screen that it did. I'll let it finish up and report.
     
  12. bonscott87

    bonscott87 Cutting Edge: ECHELON '07

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    The push download failed.
    I just restart and forced the update via good old 02468 and it's downloading now.

    Strange. But hey, it's downloading.
     
  13. MikeR

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    Did some further testing:
    1. Swap HDMI cable - No change.
    2. Set remote to IR - No change.
    3. Switch to component - Video displays when TV and -200 are powered on.

    Note: When connected via HDMI, when TV and -200 are powered on, the TV displays "Receiving auto control signal", but video never appears.
     
  14. Doug Brott

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    I'm connected with an HDMI cable watching the Bionic Woman from last night. The audio/video seems fine during normal playback, but when I hit 30-second-slip or other trick play I get this horrible crackling noise. Once I go back to normal playback, I do not have this problem any longer.
     
  15. hasan

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    I get a similar noise burst between tracks on Media Share, using Coaxial Digital connection (and HDMI for video...HDMI audio is not working for Media Share). It is very annoying. It may or may not be related. I get no such noise with the HR20-700
     
  16. Radio Enginerd

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    Got media share running last night using WM11. All is well so far, no noticeable issues.

    I should mention I tend to bounce between WM11 and Tversity. Based on my experience with WM11 last night I might start using it more frequently.
     
  17. smiddy

    smiddy Tain't ogre til its ogre

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    Are you using something other than HDMI? Both music and photos?
     
  18. Doug Brott

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    It seems to happen to me very specifically when I use 30SS, 1xFF and REPLAY. 2xFF and higher doesn't show this problem. It's just a loud crackling noise - kinda like you'd think static would sound, just loud.
     
  19. Spanky_Partain

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    Mine was also failing with both shipping version of firmware and this version as well.
     
  20. smiddy

    smiddy Tain't ogre til its ogre

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    The Welcome Video in Showcases caught my attention last night so I hit play (HR21-200 BTW). I hit the rewind button just after it started, because I use native screen formating, the Sharp has to resynch the HDMI feed, so I missed the front end of the piece. When I hit rewind the screen indicator for time read 0:-1. I thought that was odd, minus 1. It also was playing music (normally recorded programs return to playing once you get to the begining) but the counter never increased and the screen stayed the same, it had music, I can't recall what it was. How is this possible? Can anyone else confirm this too?
     

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