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HR21 -700 First Look: Collaboration Thread

Discussion in 'DIRECTV - HR21 Discussion (private)' started by Drew2k, Aug 8, 2007.

  1. Aug 8, 2007 #1 of 134
    Drew2k

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    Per Doug's gentle push :) I thought I'd start a thread seeking input for a collaborative "First Look at the HR21".

    I'll model this on lamontcranston's First Look at the H21, with placeholders below for each section of the review, and as we flesh out the content, I'll update the placeholders.

    Packaging - All about the carton and an overview of the contents
    From the Outside - Dimensions, appearance, ports
    From the Inside - Chipsets, hard drive & size
    Setup & Activation - SWM capabilities, satellite setup
    Basic Operation - DVR usage, trickplay, guide, menus
    Interactive Content - Active, YES-HD, MIX channels
    Key Differences between HR20 and HR21 - No OTA, black case color, "solid" blue ring

    Some potential new categories:

    Remote Control
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    Software Version -

    Is everyone up for this? I figure it will go easier if we all chip in!
     
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    Drew2k

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    Packaging - All about the carton and an overview of the contents
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    • Outside box is exactly the same as the HR20.
    • BBCs are not packed in little boxes with the coax bent.
    • HDMI cable is included.


    Click thumbnail for larger image:

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    Drew2k

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    From the Outside - Dimensions, appearance, ports ---


    • Case Color: Glossy Black - similar to the limited release black HR20-100
    • Case Front LED's: Frosted/Cloudy Blue Circle - same as HR20-100, not same as HR20-700
    • Case Venting: Sides/Back/Not Top - similar to HR20-100 but no holes on back bottom, not same as HR20-700
    • Case Height: Seems to be slightly taller - someone want to take picture from top and side vs HR20?
    • Case Weight: Seems to be slightly lighter - someone want to weigh it vs HR20?
    • RF Remote Antenna: Built in; No external RF Antenna needed - same as HR20-700, not same as HR20-100
    • Ethernet Ports: 2 - same as HR20-100, not same as HR20-700; bottom port is "pass-through" so a 2nd networked device can be connected here. On the HR21, the port lights are green and light-amber, whereas on the HR20 the port lights are amber and deep-amber.
    • Off-Air Input: No Over-The-Air (OTA) Input
    • Digital Audio Coax Output: Yes - same as HR20-100, not same as HR20-700
    • 2nd USB on back: Yes - same as HR20-100, not same as HR20-700
    • Access Card: New Access Card with Satellite on Card - not sure if functionally different

    Side-by-Side Receiver Comparison Photos:

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    Additional Photos showing Rear and Bottom and Side Vents:
     

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    Drew2k

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    Setting up the HR21 is the same as setting up the HR20.

    Satellite Connections:
    The HR20 can either have one or two inputs. For each input, the enclosed BBCs will be required to receive the signals from the new satellites, unless the SWM is used.

    If using SWM, plug the coax cable into Satellite In 1 (labled "SWM 2" on the back panel). The one cable will take the place of two runs coming from the dish. NOTE: THE HR21 USES TWO CHANNELS OF THE SWM.

    A/V Connections:
    Connections to to the TV can be composite, S-Video, Component, or HDMI. There are also digital audio out (coax) and digital audio out (optical). The connections to your A/V equipment are the same as the HR20.

    Activation:
    Once the connections are made and the box is powered up, follow the setup screen to input your zip code, make sure the dish is properly aligned, and begin to pull channel information from DIRECTV. A call to activate it will then let the box go live.

    Tweaking the HR21

    Just like its older brother the HR20, selecting MENU -> Help and Settings -> Setup will allow tweaks to be made such as audio, display, and HDTV

    Audio
    The Audio option has three tabs: Language, Sound Effects, and Dolby Digital. To navigate each tab by using the green button to advance and the red button to go back.

    Display
    The Display option has three tabs: Preferences, Captioning, and Clock. To navigate each tab by using the green button to advance and the red button to go back.

    HDTV
    The Display option has three tabs: Video, TV Ratio, and TV Resolutions. To navigate each tab by using the green button to advance and the red button to go back.

    Networking
    Networking is enabled and the HR21 currently uses it for DIRECTV's Media Share beta and VOD (when released).

    If you have set up an HR20, setting up an HR21 is easy. The receiver comes loaded with code 0x168 which has the white GUI. For a look at the features with 0x168, the link is here: http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=89420
     
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    Basic Operation - DVR usage, trickplay, guide, menus
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    Interactive Content - Active, MIX Channels, YES-HD
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    Key Differences between HR20-700/100 and HR21 - No OTA, black case color, "solid" blue ring
    • No vents on top.
    • Two Ethernet ports.
    • Record light is red for recording, yellow for phone connection.
    • The blue ring lights on the front panel are "filtered"
    • Reported temp is several degrees cooler than the HR20-700, with the HR21 running in the 105-115° range

    DISCUSS: Are in agreement on RED for recording? I see orange and I know someone else did as well.
     
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    Remote Control -

    • Model RC64R - top left corner of remote
    • Larger device database
    • The dash is now black with the label "DASH" placed on the key
    • The label "REC" is placed to the right of the (R) record key
    • Can be configured as RF remote
    • Can be configured as IR remote 00001 (default) or 00003
     

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    Software Version -
     
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    Packaging - Outside box is exactly the same as the HR20. BBCs are not packed in little boxes with the coax bent. HDMI cable is included.
    Key Differences between HR20 and HR21 - No vents on top. Two Ethernet ports. Record light is red for recording, yellow for phone connection.
     
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    Bainbridge...
    Reddish orange (or orangish red)?? I have yet to see mine use the phone. Like the blue ring, the record light is filtered (that HR20 light is sure bright!)

    Reported temperature is several degrees cooler than HR20-700.
     
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    bobnielsen

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    Bainbridge...
    Are you sure it doesn't do RF? It has the FCC sticker on the back. I use the HR21 with my RC32RF in RF mode and didn't try it with the RC64 (I wanted the backlighting.)
     
  17. Aug 8, 2007 #17 of 134
    Drew2k

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    It does RF ... I have two HR20-700 in the room with the HR21, so I've been using the HR21 in RF mode since I got it.
     
  18. Aug 8, 2007 #18 of 134
    Sixto

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    Question was whether the RC64R remote does RF? Didn't think so but I'm watching from the sidelines. :)
     
  19. Aug 8, 2007 #19 of 134
    Drew2k

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    Can everyone please verify the temp range ... I recall seeing posts with temps in the 105°-110° range, with occasional temps in the 118° area, and this is actually very clost to the -700.
     
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    Drew2k

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    HK - I'm not much of a network guy ... can you explain what this means? I know you're referring to the bottom port, so I'm guessing it means you can connect another device to the bototm port, kind of like daisy-chaining devices?

    The clearer the better for dummies like me! :p
     

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