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HR24-100 needs constant reboot for MRV

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Connected Home' started by DrummerBoy523, Aug 2, 2010.

  1. Aug 2, 2010 #1 of 21
    DrummerBoy523

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    Here is my setup as far as I understand:

    SWMLNB-->Green Splitter

    Green Splitter #1 (4 port) Out 1--->PI--->open port
    Green Splitter #1 (4 port) Out 3--->terminated
    Green Splitter #1 (4 port) Out 4--->terminated
    Green Splitter #1 (4 port) Out 2--->8 port Green Splitter #2

    Green Splitter #2 Out 1--->HR24-100
    Green Splitter #2 Out 2--->HR21-200
    Green Splitter #2 Out 3--->H24-100
    Green Splitter #2 Out 4--->Router/PI
    Green Splitter #2 Out 5--->non terminated (old HR21-200 2nd in)
    Green Splitter #2 Out 6--->non terminated (old R15 (now HR24) 2nd in)
    Green Splitter #2 Out 7--->non terminated
    Green Splitter #2 Out 8--->non terminated

    The HR24 constantly loses its connection with the HR21 and the H24. About 2-3 times a week I have to reboot the two DVRs.

    All D* boxes on the network have static IPs.

    Can anyone help? I will be happy to provide more info if needed.

    Edit: updated my system setup
     
  2. Aug 2, 2010 #2 of 21
    jpitlick

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    It's probably not the issue, but you should have a 75 ohm terminator cap on the open port on the PI. Also, I assume that it is a 4 port splitter attached to the second port on the 2 port splitter. With a SWM LNB, there multiswitches are not used. Is the 4 port also a green labelled splitter? If not, that could be the issue.
     
  3. Aug 2, 2010 #3 of 21
    DrummerBoy523

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    Where can I get a terminator? Right now - we've got a cable attached to it for future use.

    The 2nd multiswitch is outside and I'm not sure what kind of splitter it is. It is in my box on the house and that has a tie fastener on it holding it all together and I cannot see in there and don't want to cut it off since I don't think I've got any more ties in the garage. If I do, I'll find out and let you know.
     
  4. Aug 2, 2010 #4 of 21
    DrummerBoy523

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    FYI, the second multiswitch is a green splitter as well.
     
  5. Aug 2, 2010 #5 of 21
    jpitlick

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    You need http://www.summitsource.com/product_info.php?ref=1&products_id=6877. I don't remember if I got mine from eBay or Amazon, but either place will have them. I think I had gotten a bag of ten.

    Did D* do the install? If they did, both splitters should be green label. I'd try the terminator first until you have another receiver to connect to that port.

    Edit: Reread your editted first post. Terminate all unused ports on the 8 port splitter. Unterminated ports lead to signal loss.
     
  6. Aug 2, 2010 #6 of 21
    hdtvfan0001

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    To respond to the OP - any significant contribution to signal loss can cause the HD DVR "think" it needs to to seek re-connection...causing a reboot.

    The terminators area good idea, and hopefully resolves your issue.
     
  7. Aug 2, 2010 #7 of 21
    Alan Gordon

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    Doesn't he need a band-stop filter as well?!

    ~Alan<~~~~~~~Who has family in Franklin....
     
  8. Aug 2, 2010 #8 of 21
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    Green splitter has one internal from what I recall.
     
  9. Aug 2, 2010 #9 of 21
    Alan Gordon

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    Aah!

    I was not aware of that (I still need to upgrade to "green label" splitters).

    ~Alan
     
  10. hdtvfan0001

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    Me neither.....until I read it in another thread on SWiM/DECA.

    I have no BSF installed, but do have green splitters in place in my SWiM/DEA setup.
     
  11. DrummerBoy523

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    Thanks everyone, I'll get some terminators.

    D* did the install, so yes, they are both green label splitters. I was a bit concerned that he used 2 splitters (in order to keep from running cable honestly) - but it seems to work most of the time.
     
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    My setup is like this

    SWMLNB-->Green 4 Port Splitter

    Green Splitter #1 (4 port) Out 1--->PI--->HR24
    Green Splitter #1 (4 port) Out 2--->H24
    Green Splitter #1 (4 port) Out 3--->terminated
    Green Splitter #1 (4 port) Out 4--->DECA Module plugged into Router


    This system was installed 1 week ago and I have had to reset the HR24 twice to get the H24 to see my recordings.
     
  14. armchair

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    Your setup appears correct but the problem may be your router or ISP. Check your router settings and verify Upnp and multicasting are enabled. Another possible solution would be to install a wired ETHERNET switch between your router and and DECA module (#4 above). These may help to lesson the need to rebbot to restore UPL.
     
  15. DrummerBoy523

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    Why would a wired ethernet switch help? Isn't the built in switch in the router good enough? As the OP, I've got a similar setup..just wondering.
     
  16. armchair

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    There's another similar discussion going on in the latter parts of this thread: http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=2548522#post2548522

    IMO, the same still applies to routers in a supported WHD with Internet Connection kit. Others have the same problem with either setup (UPL is not viewable or not updating). The ISP or the router may be to blame. Some have gotten around it by playing with router settings but others, I believe, need the switch.

    The switch is useful for separating the local LAN traffic from Internet traffic, for example, MRV (unsupported WHD only), Directv2PC and Media Share would be local traffic that the router wouldn't be burdened with. I only want my router bothered with traffic I demand because I want it expedited (DOD and TV APPS and my VOIPs & PC browsing).
     
  17. DrummerBoy523

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    excuse my ignorance but what is UPL? Thanks for the link...
     
  18. armchair

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    Sorry I took so long to reply back but UPL is Unified PlayList. Basically, it's what you should be seeing when you press LIST button on your remote with a proper functioning Whole Home DVR (WHD).
     
  19. DrummerBoy523

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    So, plug the DECA and my desktop into the switch and then just plug the switch into the router? Or just DECA into the switch?

    Where would DHCP reside since I still have a lot of wireless clients and I have static IPs set up for all clients on the router?

    This is all new to me, so I wont be offended if you bring this down to a 3rd grade level for me :)

    Edit: Added another question..
     
  20. armchair

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    I would plug the PC and the broadband DECA into the switch.

    You should only have one DHCP server enabled; the other s/b off. Is the router in your office the DHCP server? BTW, the switch wouldn't change anything as far as DHCP is concerned. IMO, the network switch would provide a more stable environment for your DECA devices.

    I was suggesting that the DHCP server s/b the main wired router because it's connected to the modem.
     

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