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HR24 - Buy or Lease?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Rockermann, Jun 18, 2010.

  1. Aug 8, 2010 #81 of 124
    keithw1975

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    So in other words you do actually own it until you register it. If you buy it for $199 throw it in the closet and never activate it then you basically own it.
     
  2. Aug 8, 2010 #82 of 124
    matt

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    I have run across these on ebay. When you call about the RID they say that basically it doesn't exist in the system and it will be activated as a leased box. So, in a way, I guess that statement is correct, they don't know it exists for them to lease it to anyone!
     
  3. Aug 8, 2010 #83 of 124
    Mike Bertelson

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    It's a lease because you're supposed to sign the lease agreement at the time of purchase. Unless you goal is to cheat the buyer by tellin them you won the receiver, they're not going to pay you more then they get the dang thing at BestBuy or Amazon so you're out the listing and purchase price fees at Ebay and you lost money.

    BTW, discussion of selling leased equipment not a good idea. Not to mention your argument doesn't make that much sense to me.

    The following is from the DirecTV Lease Addendum that comes with the receiver.

    Within 30 days of provision of DIRECTV equipment to you, or on the date that the professional installer has installed or is prepared to install your DIRECTV equipment, whichever is sooner, you agree to activate each and every DIRECTV Receiver ordered by you or provided to you…

    Lease Addendum Link

    You can't just stick it on a shelf some where and pretend it's owned.


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  4. Aug 8, 2010 #84 of 124
    Rich

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    That HR WILL be able to be activated, but as a leased receiver, not an owned one. And, yes, you can sell it. I think if someone bought it, they'd have to pay $20 for a new access card. Not sure about that.

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  5. Aug 8, 2010 #85 of 124
    Rich

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    True statement. Kinda of an expensive way to make a point, tho. :)

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  6. Aug 8, 2010 #86 of 124
    Rich

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    I know BB used to have that on the receipt when you purchased it. But, Costco never did. Of course Costco could track your purchase by your membership number, so perhaps you would get a notice that you had to activate it sometime up the road.

    But I think you could buy one at Costco and stick it on a shelf and pretend it's owned. Kinda draconian way to satisfy yourself, never mind the expense. :lol:

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  7. Aug 8, 2010 #87 of 124
    Rich

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    I've run across a lot of them on eBay too. At least they can be activated, so the buyer isn't totally screwed as he/she would be if they bought a leased receiver. Gets kinda confusing, doesn't it, Matt? I mean, what are we doing when we put our money out initially? Purchasing it or leasing it on the spot? No wonder so many folks get confused.

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  8. Aug 8, 2010 #88 of 124
    Rich

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    If the buyer doesn't have the sense to check with D* and see if it is truly owned or has never been activated or is leased and cannot be activated, well, that's where caveat emptor kicks in. Notice how many offerings on eBay say that they will not accept returns?

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  9. Aug 8, 2010 #89 of 124
    keithw1975

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    Yeah I know. Just saying that without any way to know who buys them at the subsidized price they can't really have any control over them until you use them on their system.

    I had toyed with the idea of buying a DVR off e-bay to get the one I wanted but ended up going to BB. After reading this I am glad that I did.
     
  10. Aug 8, 2010 #90 of 124
    Rich

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    I got six off eBay and Craigslist. Glad I got them when I did. The owned HRs on eBay don't last long. Someone makes the seller an offer he can't refuse and he pulls the plug on the offering.

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  11. Aug 8, 2010 #91 of 124
    matt

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    They don't for me, but I usually only offer about $50 :lol:
     
  12. Aug 8, 2010 #92 of 124
    mikegold

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    Additionally, as happened to me, I owned three out of my four DVR's. When one of the owned DVR's had to be replaced under my equipment coverage it automatically converted from owned to leased in my account information online. Despite all of my protestations to DirecTV I still have not been able to get them to change it back.
     
  13. Aug 8, 2010 #93 of 124
    mikegold

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    All of the receivers/dvr's I've had to have replaced over the years have ALWAYS been replaced with the same or better/newer equipment.
     
  14. Aug 8, 2010 #94 of 124
    mikegold

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    The whole "lease" thing is ridiculous. If it's a lease and we don't own the equipment, why are we paying anything to just get the box into the house? If DirecTV wants to retain ownership of the equipment that's fine but, don't ask me to first purchase the equipment and then pay you a monthly lease fee and then have to return the box to you when I no longer want it.

    If I sign up with Cablevision and get their DVR/receiver I'm leasing the equipment from them and paying them monthly for the leased equipment. There's no upfront 'purchase' price.
     
  15. Aug 8, 2010 #95 of 124
    bobnielsen

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    If you owned the equipment, you would still pay $5/month, although it would be called an "additional receiver fee" instead of a "leased receiver fee". I look at the $199 fee as a prepaid lease and the $5 as a charge for being able to get separate programming on two TVs.
     
  16. Aug 8, 2010 #96 of 124
    TBlazer07

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    Once you activate it no dealer is going to take it back. If they do take it back in error after it has been activated DirecTV is going to hit you for a big $$$$ fee when you eventually need to return it to THEM. I would check with DirecTV just BEFORE you actually activate it.
     
  17. Aug 8, 2010 #97 of 124
    bonscott87

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    Do the math though.

    DirecTV - $199 (down to free) up front, no monthly if it's your only receiver, $5 if it's additional
    Cable - Typically $0 up front, but anywhere from $13-$20 a month fee.

    Sure doesn't take long for cable to get up to that $199 mark and with cable you keep on paying forever. So you pay more with cable even though it's $0 up front.

    So once you do the math you'll see that even though you pay an up front fee to DirecTV it's actually cheaper if you stay more then a year (in most cases).

    Always good to do the math. ;)
     
  18. Aug 9, 2010 #98 of 124
    wingrider01

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    6 units, all owned, all have been replaced by the PP at one time or the other, all 6 are still flagged as owned. If they where replaced under the Protection Plan then call and ask for the access card department, they should be able to resolve the issue. If they where replaced without the Protection Plan nothing you can do, they are leased
     
  19. Aug 10, 2010 #99 of 124
    Rich

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    Do you have the Protection Plan?

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    Since day one.
     

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