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HR34 and Whole-Home DVR, PIP, RVU

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by David Ortiz, Jul 6, 2011.

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  1. Jeremy W

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    The RVU app would be the RVU client.
     
  2. CraigerCSM

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    Oh see now. I guess I was combing the Client Box and RVU App into one thing, sorry. I wonder if DTV could even do an RVU App on DVD and be able to install it on other devices? Or would they still have to be RVU Certified first?
     
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    What devices besides a PC allow apps to be installed via DVD?
     
  4. harsh

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    I'll bet you won't unless there is a broad announcement of RVU capable server hardware first (or simultaneously). That would necessarily mean broader than the HR34 (assuming DIRECTV can find an excuse to announce it without having an official CES presence).
    AT&T has already done it. Modern game consoles have most of the required hardware as well as the necessary support for DLNA and even availability of a TV style remote.
    How does this count out any manner of client device?
    If by "Game Consoles", you're talking about the likes of the Nintendo Entertainment System, yes. Otherwise, you're typically talking much more sophisticated media capabilities and horsepower than are in any cable or satellite DVR.

    The question as I see it comes down to one of DRM as opposed to any hardware limitations.
     
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    All modern gaming consoles and Blu-ray devices.
     
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    Weird, neither my Xbox 360 nor my Samsung Blu-ray player allow me to install anything via DVD. Both of them will install stuff off the Internet, though.
     
  7. CraigerCSM

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    The PS3 allows for installing a digital copy DVD.
     
  8. harsh

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    The bigger question is how you're going to load DVD-based software into your intended client device if it doesn't have a built-in DVD capable drive.

    Most devices will get their updated code from a network connection anyway. All RVU devices will have a network connection by definition.
     
  9. CraigerCSM

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    They could do both RVU App DVD's and download the RVU App. Would client devices still have to be RVU certified to be able to install the RVU App? Or would just installing the RVU App make the client device RVU certified?
     
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    The app would be developed by an RVU Alliance member, and that's all that's necessary.
     
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    If you place the Xbox firmware update file ($systemupdate_<date>_<version>.zip) on a DVD and stick it in the drive, the Xbox 360 will automatically recognize what is going on and install it. This technique also works with USB drives.

    I wouldn't be surprised if something similar wasn't available for your Blu-ray player.
     
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    Could Microsoft's TV Guide in Media Center be used with RVU instead of using DTV's interface?
     
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    Certification of RVU is a kind of a slippery slope as it depends on technologies that have no certification process.

    As HDMI proved, even with a formal certification, things don't always work together.
     
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    RVU is an extension of the receiver, not a replacement for any part of it.
     
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    You're talking about firmware updates, I'm talking about applications. They are two very different things.
     
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    RVU requires you to use your provider's interface, so DirecTV's interface will always be used with DirecTV's service. It doesn't matter what the client is, whether it's an STB or an app on a PC or smartphone.
     
  17. CraigerCSM

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    Sorry I thought Microsoft could turn their guide into an RVU App but I forgot about the RVU creating a pixel accurate representation of DTV's interface on client devices. Also me asking if Microsoft turning their guide into an RVU App would be me asking again if RVU would be built into Windows and in this thread they have said that won't happen. Also Microsoft's Guide as an RVU App would mean their guide wouldn't work with any other TV provider and Microsoft wouldn't do that.
     
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    While the associated client devices may support apps at some other level, it is unlikely that they will be available when you're in an RVU session. RVU is a portal to your RVU server and what you see is created uniquely by the server.
     
  19. harsh

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    Indeed.

    I was thinking more along the lines of CraigerCSM where he seemed to be talking about installing RVU itself as an application from a DVD (since RVU itself probably doesn't support "apps").

    I assumed that there were hard drive installable titles available for the Xbox. My bad.


    As you've made it abundantly clear, RVU is not the answer to the question of a customizable interface (although it could easily support "skins" if the programming provider saw a profit in it). RVU is the answer to a unified interface regardless of what the user wants or needs.
     
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    Xbox 360 can cache game data on the hard drive off the DVD, which is referred to as "installation" even though the DVD is still required. Other than that, any games that are actually installed on the hard drive come from Xbox Live.
     
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