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HR34 from DirecTV - Why Current Customers Treated So Poorly

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by akopperl, Dec 24, 2011.

  1. Dec 26, 2011 #61 of 279
    gio12

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    Get what? I been offered just about NOTHING form DIRECTV in 11 years.
    My first HD Tivo was a wedding gift, I paid for an upgrade to DIRECTV's HR20 myself. I paid for my own SWIM/LNB and installed myself. paid for my HR21-100 one I need another DVR. Installed myself.

    MRV, had unsupported on my network before I asked for a DECA set-up, thinking it was better. It was not and that's the ONLY thing DIRECTV had helped out with in 11 years of being as subscriber. AT&T wireless and Home internet have ALWAYS offered me freebies and upgrades/special pricing for loyalty. So, YES, DIRECTV should help loyal subscribers here and they, especially, you you must PAY for a HD DVR to get service! :rolleyes:
     
  2. Dec 26, 2011 #62 of 279
    gio12

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    Free installs? Really, that;s a reason for a 2 yr contract that I paid $199 for to get a DVR?

    A money can do 99% of D* installs. Hmm, bolt a dish to the house and run a few wires to the houses ALREADY install Cable companies coax runs.

    That should force me into a 2 year contract for a lease piece of equipment? At least I OWN my phone on a 2 yrs contract.
     
  3. Dec 26, 2011 #63 of 279
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  4. Dec 26, 2011 #64 of 279
    Jason Whiddon

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    You have heard of multiquote right?
     
  5. Dec 26, 2011 #65 of 279
    Herdfan

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    It is. But PQ is subjective. You are still limited to 4 total streams into your house.
     
  6. Dec 26, 2011 #66 of 279
    Jason Whiddon

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    On a 58" plasma, it is easy to see uverse loses vs Directv at my friends house. This is a tv I owned and sold to him, and it's calibrated.

    I also agree PQ is subjective, because screen size. viewing distance, and the persons overall understanding of quality varies. I own my own gear and calibrate my displays. It's pretty easy for me to say Directv looks better than Dish and Uverse on a large calibrated screen. I've also been watching HD since 2004 and seen plenty of good and bad.
     
  7. Dec 26, 2011 #67 of 279
    Jerry_K

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    Not moving it, duplicating it and you watch in two places while it duplicates.

    And let's say he recorded the Macy's Thanksgiving day parade on a unit he is choosing to deactivate. His friend was standing where one of the talking heads interviewed him. He really wants to keep this recording. Or any other one time good only show. I guess the only thing he can do is record it with a standalone recorder. OK if you have one but the PQ is going to suffer.
     
  8. Dec 26, 2011 #68 of 279
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    Yes, you are limited for now. I don't need more than 4 HD streams anyways.
    if others do, I might be hard pressed to recommend the service.

    Its going to be a moot point sometime next year anyways for most Uverse customers. But I decided to stick with DIRECTV for now.
     
  9. Dec 26, 2011 #69 of 279
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    Is Uverse launching a new closed captioning service :lol:
     
  10. Dec 26, 2011 #70 of 279
    Jason Whiddon

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    Now thats funny right there.

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  11. Dec 26, 2011 #71 of 279
    inkahauts

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    How do you start in one place, and then finish in another by simply hitting resume? Does TiVo do that? And really, duplicate recordings everywhere so I can watch something in any room I want, why bother? Defeats the purpose of using multiple dvrs so you don't have space issues.

    Again, for changing dvrs it's a great feature, but for mrv, I don't see any advantages over streaming for mrv. And dvrs are not meant for archiving anyway, even if some people use them for that. They are meant for time shifting. Two very different things.
     
  12. Dec 26, 2011 #72 of 279
    Jerry_K

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    TiVo is for both time shifting, archiving and sharing when away from the location of the DVRs. thats what we are used to.

    On the TiVo interface, lets say I am watching a program in the living room. When I stop it there and go to the bedroom, I am given the option of starting from the beginning or from the paused/stopped location in the living room. And duplicating the recordings is not bad because when we do a duplicate we remove it when done watching since it still resides on the original DVR.

    I will quit with this now as we are both convinced that one method is better than the other.
     
  13. Dec 26, 2011 #73 of 279
    Alan Gordon

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    True... but unfortunately, there's no way to archive something (in HD) from a DirecTV HD-DVR.

    My cousin and a couple of her friends were in the audience of "Live With Kelly!" shortly before Christmas. I recorded it on WABC, KABC, and a (somewhat) local affiliate. The (somewhat) local affiliate does not air it in HD (which is a shame since it's 1080i versus WABC's and KABC's 720p), so I deleted it, but I still have the ABC feeds. Sadly, I know that if I ever get rid of those DVRs, or something happens to them, I'll lose those recordings.

    From a logistics standpoint (thanks to the wonderful SWiM and DECA technologies), streaming works great, and I no longer prefer copying for MRV versus streaming. However, that doesn't change the fact that there are multiple ways in which copying can come in handy... and not just for swapping DVRs. One thing I've run into a few times is that in my house, I have my own DVRs, and a shared DVR. Sometimes I'll want to save something on the shared DVR to go back to later, but unfortunately, space needs to be made on it, and sacrifices must be made. With copying, I could transfer it to another DVR, and get it out of others' way.

    That being said, while I'd like to have a way to offload content in the future, it doesn't appear to be coming anytime soon... and MRV works great 99.2% of the time. :D

    ~Alan
     
  14. Dec 26, 2011 #74 of 279
    inkahauts

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    Guys, dvrs are not meant for archiving, period. Any of them. Hollywood would never ever go for that,so not even a TiVo is designed with that in mind.

    And TiVo is starting to go away from moving content too as their newest device uses clients without hard drives.
     
  15. Dec 26, 2011 #75 of 279
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    It's good they offer to resume as well, how long do you have to wait, or is it almost instant, and it's moving it while it's playing back? And if its doing that, do they copy the whole show if you select resume and your in the middle of the show?
     
  16. Dec 26, 2011 #76 of 279
    Alan Gordon

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    Since you quoted me, you may not have realized that I was agreeing with you! ;)

    I read your post, and added a few comments. The point was simply that at this time, it's a shame you cannot archive certain content with DirecTV like you can do with TiVo, computer tuners, etc.

    ~Alan
     
  17. Dec 26, 2011 #77 of 279
    Alan Gordon

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    Depends on the speed of your connection/network.
    No playback until it's moved (to my knowledge).
    Yes (re: copy the whole program).

    ~Alan
     
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    gio12

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    damn iPhone!
     
  20. Dec 26, 2011 #80 of 279
    Jerry_K

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    Say you watch a program on TiVo1 and decide to move to another room. When you bring up the list of recorded programs in that room, the bottom of the list has all the other connected DVRs by whatever you named them. You open that folder and you see all the programs recorded on the other DVR, you pick the program you were watching, tell the TiVo in the room in which you are to watch it here, it asks from the beginning or from the last viewed point. Let's say you tell it from the stopped point. It starts the transfer from that point and in a few seconds you can choose to watch it or select other programs to put in the queue for duplication. If you choose to watch it immediately I would guess the delay is about five seconds total. And the recording gets ahead of you very quickly so you can skip through junk. If you choose not to watch it at that point you can then put anything else on any other TiVo in the queue for transfer. If you choose to transfer from more than one machine it will begin to transfer more than one show.

    With a hacked DirecTiVo there are ways to get the program from your DVR to the hard drive on your computer. With a Series 3 or later, TiVo has a desktop application that allows you to download any program to the computer hard drive and Window Media Player will play it on the computer. How handy is that to take a never to be seen again recording over to another persons home to view on a laptop. Because the Kids have crippled DVRs and we had Series 3 DVRs from TiVo, we many times recorded programs they wanted to keep and took them to their homes where they could archive them on thier computer.
     

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