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HR34 (HMC) = Genie

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by smitbret, Oct 10, 2012.

  1. lugnutathome

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    I find both sat providers operate on similar marketing tactics and a lot of "the other guy lies" posturing stuff as well. Its almost difficult to sort these ads out from political "endorsements".:(

    They are in a competitive market space and they are big corporations. The decision makers steering these universes are far removed from the operational realities.

    Lines are drawn in the sand, deadlines made based on things mandated by those far removed from the work. Then promised upline which then goes out to investors making it career limiting to retract.

    The simple truth is the competitive nature of the market space is driven by these perceptions and not the realities. What is bad is that this is big business everyday across all horizontal and vertical slices. Direct TV and Dish are just examples of common business practices these days.

    Don "I find filtering press releases through jive, swedish chef, or valspeak makes them far more palatable to read" Bolton

     
  2. harsh

    harsh Beware the Attack Basset

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    They must be enjoying some big benefits from misleading customers to draft up such big fantasies.
     
  3. The Merg

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    Where do you see mentioned that it can drive 8 TV's?

    With regard to people wanting multiple HR34's, DirecTV has determined that most consumers won't typically need that. Even though I am a power user, if I didn't frequent this site, I would probably be fine with just a HR34 and at most an additional DVR.

    As for the Start Over feature, it works exactly as the press release suggests. If you are changing channels and come upon a channel that has Start Over capability, you can just rewind to the start of the show. If you had a HR34, you would see how easy it is, but...

    - Merg
     
  4. macfan601

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  5. Laxguy

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

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    Not you, but the typical user.

    First, the HR34s are- or at least were a short time ago- in short supply.
    Second, I suspect there are engineering matters that need extra programming (meaning software dev. time) when two '34s are in the mix.
     
  6. fsucello

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    Maybe Stupid Question Alert...Ok, so I have an HR34 and two H25s. I had this installed about 2 months ago. So, now the HR34 is called the "genie". Am I missing out on anything with my current installation or has it just been renamed? I know the CR31s are smaller boxes, but other than that, is there some software difference? What about the "Catch up on past episodes,
    as far back as 5 weeks"? Can I do that now and don't realize it?

    Is there a software upgrade to thie "Genie recommends" thing?
     
  7. spartanstew

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    Just renamed.
    C31's are completely different than H25's. Check out the First Look HERE.
    You can't do the "catch up" feature, nor can anyone else at the moment.
    Yes, you will receive a software update at some point that includes Genie Recommends.
     
  8. JACKIEGAGA

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    It is just renamed

    "Catch up on past episodes, as far back as 5 weeks"? Can I do that now and don't realize it?
    No, Stuart posted in another thread it is a future feature
     
  9. harsh

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    The RVU technology section of the press release mentions that you can connect "up to" 8 RVU-enabled TVs such that DVR service can be enjoyed on every TV. There is no mention of a limit so the implication is that you can be enjoying "Full HD DVR functionality - in every connected room" all at once.

    The Start Over topic doesn't speak to any limitations on the feature. A review on one of the blog sites says that the feature works with any channel at any time of the day.

    Press releases aren't designed for the people that have the equipment and know when they see something that isn't right. They are designed to lure the unsuspecting in and trap them into a two year commitment with something less than was suggested.
     
  10. Laxguy

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    Astute analysis!

    You probably have learned as well, by now, that drinking the right beer doesn't bring the babes flocking to your side.....:D
     
  11. harperhometheater

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    That's kind of funny, coming from an admitted "macfan" :lol: :p ;)
     
  12. inkahauts

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    There are technical reasons at this time why they aren't allowing multiple hr34s on people's accounts. That will change in the future after some updates to the firmware, but I have the impression it's not a this year thing, its a sometime next year thing.

    This was not an arbitrary decision on their part determining what you do and do not need.

    Needless to say, I want more than one to, but I understand the reasons.
     
  13. harsh

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    Technical reasons like a legacy LNB and SWiM16 being required?
     
  14. Sixto

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    No, though they are required.
     
  15. raott

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    What are the technical reasons? There are multiple people on this site who have more than one HR34.
     
  16. macfan601

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    Bingo!!!
     
  17. inkahauts

    inkahauts Well-Known Member

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    And they are experiencing the issues. ;)

    The c31 is part of the problem and it just hit. I am sure it will get worked out in time.
     
  18. jasonblair

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    DirecTV has Trademark application 85626387 for the mark "GENIE" with the US Patent & Trademark Office for the following goods and services: (For those of you who aren't trademark attorneys, class 9 is electronic devices and software, class 38 is telecommunications services, and class 41 is entertainment & educational services.)

    Class 009: Set-top boxes; digital video recorders and players; computer operating software for use with set-top boxes and digital video recorders and players

    Class 038: Satellite television broadcasting; Satellite transmission services; Broadcasting programs via a global computer network; Video-on-demand transmission services; transmission of pay-per-view television and other audio, video, and audiovisual material; Electronic transmission of data via global computer networks, wireless networks and electronic communication networks; Providing user access to telecommunication networks for transmission or receipt of data

    Class 041: Entertainment services, namely, providing information on entertainment in the nature of television programs, movies, and multimedia content

    Source link to USPTO: http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=doc&state=4006:roo3md.2.1
     
  19. raott

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    Again, what are the issues?
     
  20. Beerstalker

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    I believe what they are talking about is trying to get a C31 client to work on a system with two HR34 servers. I think there are problems like it only being able to see one HR34 at a time, and in order to switch which HR34 it sees you pretty much have to delete the device from your account and then add it again, and I think a CSR has to do it. Obviously that is not something that DirecTV wants to have to happen, so they get around it for now by only allowing one HR34 on an account. That way the C31 will only have one HR34 to talk to and it avoids those issues.

    My guess is once they figure out how to make the C31 work with multiple RVU servers easily (HR34s are the only ones out now), then DirecTV will consider allowing more than one HR34 per account.

    I do think they have to work on this though, because eventually I believe we will start seeing stuff like RVU Blu-Ray players/changers, etc that can also work as a server. That means that the C31 will have to be able to talk to both the HR34 and the Blu-Ray player and switch back and forth easily.
     

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