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HR34 RVU Field Trial

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by harsh, May 18, 2011.

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  1. Jeremy W

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    How about just using the USB port it already has, and attaching a 1TB USB hard drive?
     
  2. Jeremy W

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    The C30 ditches the tuner, so it could still be smaller.
     
  3. JosephB

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    They will have to support IPv6 simply because DirecTV DVRs don't only communicate with local devices. They do communicate with hosts out on the internet, and eventually that will require IPv6. Keeping IPv4 around for security or keeping hosts off the internet is not the right way to go about it. There are much more robust and 'official' methods of doing what you suggest. For example the server and client could communicate over IPv6 with a local, non-routable IP and then the server would also have a publicly routable IP that it uses to communicate with DirecTV.

    I don't think 2.5" drives are rated for constant use like the larger ones. I have to think that you're probably approaching the smallest box that you can for a DVR. With the push to server/client, it won't really matter anyway. Want to put your TV on the wall? Fine, put the DVR in a closet and run a coax to the TV and use RVU.

    RVU could easily replace AllVid. All they have to do is allow the RVU client to specify that it does not want any UI elements from the server and also send data such as channel, EPG, etc. info in a machine-readable format. However, that defeats your concerns about AllVid. An AllVid gateway would undoubtably be cheaper than any RVU server, since an RVU server will almost always likely be a full-on DVR. If I wanted to add a TiVo to that, then I'm buying two DVRs instead of a DVR + a gateway. RVU could replace AllVid for something like a Google TV, but not a third party DVR. There are other concerns about RVU other than simply overlaying UI (which precludes third party DVRs)

    Switching providers would be just as easy with RVU or AllVid, provided that if you were an AllVid customer, you wanted to keep your third party DVR/STB. Also, there's noting preventing TV manufacturers from making AllVid TVs.

    AllVid may "benefit" CE companies, but RVU benefits providers. Picking one or the other without addressing concerns of each side means there will be a winner and a loser. It just depends on your personal preferences, so trying to say AllVid 'unfairly' benefits CE companies is to ignore that RVU does the same for video providers.
     
  4. HoTat2

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    Huh? :confused:

    I don't see how any of this relates to RobertE's question of whether or not the HR34 will be equipped support the new "Reverse DBS" (RDBS or BSS) band.
     
  5. LameLefty

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    How quickly people forget. All the way back in January 2010 . . .

    http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=2326846#post2326846

    That should give people an idea of how small any kind of client like this is likely to be.
     
  6. sigma1914

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    I just need this to be released so I can replace my HR24 while recordings are low from watching all my archived stuff. Once fall hits, I'll need those tuners. :) I'd field trial the heck out of it!
     
  7. TBoneit

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    AFAIK the largest 2.5" drive is a terabyte. I have one from WD in one of its media players. The live Hub. I also see a Intel SSD 600Gb = Dang pricy.

    Using laptop drives allows savings in power usage. Smaller power supply. Lower heat output. An SSD eve more so. SSD is one way that HP designed a laptop that could run over a day on one charge. LED LCD was another thing they did.

    However a SSD should definitely be able to handle multiple video streams with ease.

    I've switched two out of three computers to SSD boot drives and what a boost.

    The older slow laptop is now quick booting compared to previously and clicking on a browser it happens fast rather than taking it's sweet time. Win7 on a single core CPU. The WEI went to 7.3 on the laptop and 7.5 on the Desktop drives.

    I'm now a convert to SSDs, One faster laptop to go.
     
  8. TheRatPatrol

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    I hope they put a 1TB drive in it.
     
  9. RobertE

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    It doesn't. Just more stuff pulled out of the back side to make one sound "informed". :rolleyes:

    My hope is that the hardware can handle the BSS sats due in a few years, if not, I may just pass on this one.
     
  10. JosephB

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    An SSD is not feasible because they have a limited number of read/writes on the drive. They extend their lives based on the fact that most people don't fill the drive up so they can spread writes out across the drive, but DVRs are always writing and people often fill up their drives.
     
  11. itzme

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    Now that I got my Samsung 2011 SmarTv, I'd love to field test this baby! Even if RVU came available later down the road.
     
  12. LameLefty

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    My guess with regard to BSS is that it will require new LNBs and new SWiM firmware/library versions (which I don't think are meant to be field-upgradeable, ergo new SWiMs). Remember, a SWiM-connected DVR simply requests a signal from the SWiM, which remodulates the satellite frequencies as necessary and feeds them out.
     
  13. ATARI

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    Current SSD technology is very feasible.

    Over 2,000,000 writes means you can totally rewrite the drive contents every minute of every day for 57 years.
     
  14. RobertE

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    Yeah, new SWiM LNBs are a given (well, 99.9% sure anyway). Guess we'll have to wait and see. The next 3 years will be giving us a lot of changes, going to be a fun ride.
     
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    No, not free, but as a "dumb" gateway it has no impact on the user experience so they wil not be able to charge a premium for it like they do today.

    The same is true for AllVid. In fact, AllVid would even take it a step further since after switching providers everything would remain the same from the users perspective, except for any difference in channels. You could, in theory, even retain any recorded content from the previous provider because it would reside on your own equipment. With RVU that equipment would be returned to the provider.

    AllVid not only pushes the "smarts" to the clients, it "unlocks" the smarts and puts them in the consumer device market. There, open competition will take care of the rest like it has in other areas. There won't be any subscription fees for it, it will be built in to the TVs, media servers, etc. Instead of DirecTV running adds about pausing in one room and watching in another, Sony, LG, Dell, etc. will be taking care of that. DirecTV will have to advertise about channels they have and how much it costs versus the next guy. Imagine, providers competing solely based on channels and price!

    It certainly could, but I doubt very much that it will. Not only is that counter to what RVU really is, it is that specific functionality that they want to squash.
     
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    The house I just bought is already wired with CAT6 in each room. Is there any reason to go with DECA when I've already got ethernet runs to every room?
     
  18. Steve

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    If properly configured, MRV performance should be about the same. Not sure if RVU is supported over CAT 5/6 or just DECA. Lots of good MRV info available here.
     
  19. TheRatPatrol

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    So is anyone on here testing one of these yet?
     
  20. Earl Bonovich

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    Yes, please post if you are... ;)
     
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