1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.
  2. Welcome to the new DBSTalk community platform. We have recently migrated to a community platform called Xenfono and hope you will find this change to your liking. There are some differences, but for the most part, if you just post and read, that will all be the same. If you have questions, please post them in the Forum Support area. Thanks!

HR44/HR24 Ethernet OK with Whole Home DVR?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by parwarp11, Mar 10, 2014.

  1. parwarp11

    parwarp11 New Member

    4
    0
    Mar 10, 2014
    VA, USA
    Hey all,

    I have read a multitude of posts on this subject and have found a variety of conflicting opniions.......so I'll ask for my specific situation.

    I have 3 DVRs: HR44-500 / HR24-100 / HR24-100. I also have Whole Home DVR service.

    The installer connected the HR44 wirelessly to my netowrk thereby passing through internet connectivity to the two HR24-100s.

    Simply stated....if I connect the HR44 to my network via Ethernet (CAT-5e) do I break Whole Home DVR across the three DVRs? Will the HR44 still pass through the connectivity to the HR24's?

    The installers seemed adamant to not do this but had no explanation as to why.

    Thanks,

    PR
     
  2. NR4P

    NR4P Dad

    6,269
    254
    Jan 15, 2007
    Sunny Florida
    Connecting your HR44 with an ethernet wire is fine. And some will recommend that over wireless.
    You will need to reboot the HR44 and possibly rerun network setup after you change to wired.
     
  3. Supramom2000

    Supramom2000 In Loving Memory of Onyx-2/23/09

    3,787
    159
    Jun 20, 2007
    Colbert, WA
    My Genie is connected directly to the router and is used as the bridge for the rest of my DVR's. Works so much better than wireless!
     
  4. Drucifer

    Drucifer New Member

    9,371
    239
    Feb 12, 2009
    NY Hudson...
    Using the Ethernet jack on a HR24 disables it built in DECA. For Whole Home, you can't have two methods of connections at the same time.
     
  5. hasan

    hasan New Member

    5,926
    49
    Sep 22, 2006
    Ogden, IA
    I think the installer used the ICK that was on my HR20-700 (which we were replacing), we just removed the coax from the HR20-700 and put it on the HR44-700 and it worked fine. There is nothing plugged into the ethernet jack (of course) on the HR44. Since the router is right next to everything, I suppose we could have taken the ICK off line and just hardwired an ethernet connecfion from the 44 to the router, but he chose not to do that.

    Any opinions which of the two ways we had to connect is the better? (using existing ICK or going ethernet direct between HR44 and router)
     
  6. Laxguy

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

    15,153
    546
    Dec 2, 2010
    Winters,...
    Some installers got

    I'd go for the less equipment, direct to HR44. If you've plenty of room, keep the ICK for backup.
     
  7. peds48

    peds48 DIRECTV A-Team DBSTalk Club

    18,441
    915
    Jan 10, 2008
    NY
    neither way is better, they both accomplish the same results. however, having the CCK lets you access the internet on the other boxes while the Genie reboots.
     
  8. Laxguy

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

    15,153
    546
    Dec 2, 2010
    Winters,...
    Same here, and it's nice and clean.

    Your installer may have been one that hooked up an HR24 direct to ethernet working on a whole house system and got burned. Brings the LAN down as far as DIRECTV boxes go and the 44 is very different in that respect.
     
  9. peds48

    peds48 DIRECTV A-Team DBSTalk Club

    18,441
    915
    Jan 10, 2008
    NY
    I have said it many times, installers do not get pay to connect directly, they get paid to install CCK or to connect wireless
     
  10. Steve

    Steve DIRECTV A-Team

    23,032
    147
    Aug 22, 2006
    Lower...
    That would also explain this:

     
  11. peds48

    peds48 DIRECTV A-Team DBSTalk Club

    18,441
    915
    Jan 10, 2008
    NY
    Exactly


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  12. parwarp11

    parwarp11 New Member

    4
    0
    Mar 10, 2014
    VA, USA
    Thanks all! Sounds like the way to go is to connect the HR44 via ethernet (this is why I wired the house Cat6 and am loathe to keep it on wireless) and the HR24s pick up the internet via the HR44. Now I understand that its the HR24's that can't do whole-home while having an ethernet connected directly to one of them but ok on the HR44.........the installer was saying that you cant connect ethernet to the HR44 as well....clearly erroneous.

    Will try this all out tomrrow and advise.

    Thank!

    PR
     
  13. Laxguy

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

    15,153
    546
    Dec 2, 2010
    Winters,...
    You got it!

    If no joy on first connect, hit reset Network to defaults.
     
  14. lflorack

    lflorack Godfather

    473
    0
    Dec 16, 2006
    I've asked this question here, so I'll try not to repost it exactly the same again but this may have been the better place to ask this.

    I'm confused about an issue I'm having with using a wired internet connection to my HR44 that seems to be causing my HR20 to lose connection to the HR44 -- so much so that it eventually couldn't see it even after rebooting multiple times. Once I disconnected the hardwire from the HR44 and rebooted it to run wirelessly, MRV was again working. However, I then have no internet.

    Everything I've read here says the way I have it connected in my wiring diagram (see my sig for the link) should work fine. Please help. Thank you.
     
  15. EricRobins

    EricRobins Godfather

    473
    0
    Feb 9, 2005
    I think I am confused.....

    If a customer has an HR44 and other SWiM capable boxes, and wants WHDVR he has two options:

    1. CCK, which connects to both router and multi-switch
    2. through HR44, where HR44 acts as bridge and replaces CCK. All WHDVR requests go back to HR44.

    Is this correct?
     
  16. dennisj00

    dennisj00 Hall Of Fame

    9,673
    189
    Sep 27, 2007
    Lake Norman, NC
    Whole home or MRV can work with no router connection as long as each H / HR2x has a DECA module except HR24, H25, HR34/44 have DECA built-in.

    Once a connection to the router is made (and units rebooted), they all have internet. This connection can be one of several ways,

    Wired to 34 or 44 Ethernet port.
    Wired to a CCK
    Wifi to a WCCK
    wifi to a HR44
     
  17. RoyGBiv

    RoyGBiv Icon

    683
    6
    Jul 24, 2007
    When I had my HR44 installed a few months ago, the installer was demanding to attach it with a CCK and not directly via ethernet. I literally begged him to let me try it that way first. He was pissed because it meant he'd have to sit there and wait for the HR44 to reboot before he could see what happened. Luckily, they reboot quickly.

    He was absolutely amazed that it worked and that I had internet connectivity, but as he left the house he said, "I was told you have to use the CCK, and even though I see a direct ethernet connection works on your system, I'll still use it, because if the customer has a problem, and someone has to come back to fix it, I'll get dinged for doing the wrong installation." He seemed to think my setup was somehow an exception to the rule.

    So, it seems right or wrong has nothing to do with what installers do. And to be honest, I can't really blame a guy who's going to get in trouble if he does it a different way, even if it is a way that works.

    SMK
     
  18. Supramom2000

    Supramom2000 In Loving Memory of Onyx-2/23/09

    3,787
    159
    Jun 20, 2007
    Colbert, WA
    Peds has said many times, installers are ordered to use the CCK (or Wcck) regardless of other options or customer choice. It's been recommended to just change it after the installer leaves.
     
  19. dennisj00

    dennisj00 Hall Of Fame

    9,673
    189
    Sep 27, 2007
    Lake Norman, NC
    They apparently aren't required to use a CCK in this area. Of the 8 HR44 installations that I've been involved with in the last year, all have been wifi even though they were charged 19.95 plus tax for a CCK. (otherwise free)

    I've changed a couple to deca modules / PI.
     
  20. peds48

    peds48 DIRECTV A-Team DBSTalk Club

    18,441
    915
    Jan 10, 2008
    NY
    Correct, installers get paid to connect CCK, they don't get paid to use ethernet
     

Share This Page