I've tried to get the HR34 a couple of times last year and they refused to offer any deals short of paying up to $400. So I've been following the Comcast offers in my area and waiting for the new Tivos, just announced today. Would be a big outlay but I figure I would have residual value (if I get the Lifetime) a few years down the line, versus paying an upfront cost and also monthly costs. Compared to what I pay for D* and U-Verse Internet, I could reduce my monthly cost by almost $60 for the first 12-months and $40 for the second 12-months, plus get more channels and much faster Internet connection. So I emailed Direct TV with these facts and they replied and offered a Genie with 1 TB disk and 5 tuners and one Genie Mini. Not sure if this description makes it possible to determine if it's an HR34 or an HR44. They'd also have to convert my wiring to SWM. Oddly, while my account online didn't show any eligibility for DVRs, it did say I was eligible for a free Genie Go, which I think requires Whole Home Service in the first place? So they're not offering any programming credits and the cost of the installation of the Genie and Genie Mini and presumably Whole Home would be $49 plus tax. I'd still be paying more monthly and wouldn't get Red Zone, which is included in the Comcast package (as well as HBO, Showtime, Cinemax and Starz). The Roamio Tivos lets you stream to iOS devices in the home and will in the future let you stream over the Internet, so better functionality than Genie Go. It would have to be the HR44 for me to even entertain this. Maybe a wireless Mini instead of a wired Mini. Has anyone been able to do better than just $49 install for Genie and Genie Mini? Like get some programming credits for a year or two?